Aug 19, 2008 5:44 PM
Got my First HRM today...Confused!
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So a couple weeks ago, woot.com had this heart rate monitor on sale for $19.99:
http://www.amazon.com/Reebok-Precision-Trainer-XT-Monitor/dp/B0012RMZ6C/ref=pd_sbs_hpc_1+
I read a bunch of positive reviews so I figured for 20 bucks I couldn't go wrong. Has anyone else used this model?
Well, I finally got it in the mail today and I have to say I'm pretty excited to try it out. I read through the instruction manual and everything seemed pretty easy to setup. I also downloaded a guide for using a HRM from another sight(not sure if it's cool to mention what sight or not). Their official calculation for for Max Heart Rate is 205 - (.5 x your age). I'm going to try that for tonight and then maybe this weekend I'll try their all-out field test method to see how close they are.
In case anyone is interested, I'll post the results of this evening's trial run sometime tomorrow.
UPDATE: Using the calculation above, my MHR comes out to 191. However, got the treadmill up as fast as I could go and I couldn't get my heart rate over 165. What's the deal? Could my MHR be that far off? There's no way I could train at 70% of my max if I have to run that fast. Confused.
jaymacsigtau wrote:UPDATE: Using the calculation above, my MHR comes out to 191. However, got the treadmill up as fast as I could go and I couldn't get my heart rate over 165. What's the deal? Could my MHR be that far off? There's no way I could train at 70% of my max if I have to run that fast. Confused.
Maybe, maybe not. Just running fast on the treadmill is unlikely to get you there. Check this article, which has one way to try to get a maximum.
http://www.marathonguide.com/training/articles/HeartMonitorTraining.cfm
Len
Len
Thanks Len! That article reinforced the notion that the basic calculations for MHR don't work perfectly for everyone. Looks like I'm going to have to do the physical tests to see what that tells me.
Thanks for your help!
Hello again Len. I went outside during lunch today and I attempted to follow the plan in the article to find my max heart rate. I have to admit that sprinting 400 meters just once was pretty tough. After the first time I couldn't make it much past 200 or 250 meters at a dead sprint. Anyway, I did this 5 or 6 times with a combination of walking an jogging between sprints.
The highest heart rate I saw on my monitor while sprinting was 176. Is it normal to have an actual MHR that is 15 points under your calculated MHR?
To make things even more confusing, the monitor recorded a max of 212!!! I never saw anything near that on the display while I was running. What's up with that? Could it be a fluke? ?:|
This is getting frustrating but I'm not going to give up until I figure it out.
212 is on the high side but possible. I talked to one guy who's max is around 220. I would look for cofirmation on a hard workout. It's also possible to have an actual lower than what the formula predicts, but you may not have been looking at the right time. Does your HRM let you upload the data and plot your heart rate over time? That way you could see if the 212 was a spike, or if there was a period of ten or twenty seconds where you sustained a high heart rate.
Len
Len
Hey Len. Thanks for the response. Although I can't download the stats from my monitor, I'm convinced that the 212 was just a spike of some kind. I'm convinced because I checked the montior quite frequently during and after the sprints and not only did I never come close to 200, I never topped 176.
On a related note, I check my HR when I woke up this morning to get my RHR. When I first got the monitor on, I was hovering around 55. However, when I laid back down, closed my eyes and took some deep breaths, I got it to dip down to 39.
I going to test the MHR again next week and the RHR again tomorrow but for now, I'm going to work with 39 and 176.
Thanks for all your help. Without it, I probably would have given up on using the monitor all together.
-Jason
First, there's a fair amount of individual variation in maximal heart rates. Any formula is just an estimate. I am concerned that you're not using the best formula. For a good article, with background research and documentation, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_rate
The article is incorrec, however, in saying a stress test is the same as a HRmax test.
Second, there are protocols for doing a maximal heart rate test. And it can be potentially dangerous. One of the simplest approaches is the one described by Tim Noakes in his ground-breaking Lore of Running:
Good luck and be careful.
Hi Dave. I'm 28 years old which much be a magical year because all of the calculations I've used so far put me in just about the same place for MHR.
220 - 28 = 192 (I know this is the least accurate)
205 - (.5 * 28) = 191 (This is the accepted standard at Runnersworld.com)
From your wiki link:
205.8 - (0.685 * 28) = 186.6
206.3 - (0.711 × 28) = 186.3
217 - (0.85 × 28) = 193.2
As you can see the range is between 186 and 192. As I said before, I performed a stress test yesterday which was very similar to the test in your second link and the highest I made it was 176. So what would you say is more accurate, one of the calculations or the self test I performed?
Thanks for your help.
-Jason
I'm curious what Dave will say. He's a pretty knowledgable guy. Personally I'd go with the 176 until you see something higher.
Len
Len
I've done a lot of running with my HRM since I've had it (about 6 mos) and I've never seen anything higher than 181 and that was me running (excuse the expression) balls out on a track outside so I don't believe the standard MHR formula works for all people.
Hey, Jay,
Sorry its been so long. I'd go with the self stress test. The formulas are based on population averages. You have no reason to assume they reflect you other than statistics. That said, I'd re-test in six months or so.
But be careful. Maximal efforts like that are tough on the body.
Good luck.
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