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1,297 Replies Last post: Dec 21, 2007 6:52 AM by randymar   Go to original post 1 ... 71 72 73 74 75 ... 87 Previous Next
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1,080. Oct 7, 2005 8:56 AM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by therealman:
So fruit in a beer is a no no but a gourd is okay?
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A gourd IS a fruit.
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1,081. Oct 7, 2005 9:46 AM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by therealman:
Why don't any commercial brewers do an apple beer?<HR>


Unibroue do Ephemere - ever had it? It's very nice, but not as meaty as yours (though probably more alcoholic).
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1,082. Oct 7, 2005 9:51 AM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by therealman:
Why don't any commercial brewers do an apple beer? It's a natural.
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Next time I see Sam Calagione, I'll mention it.
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1,083. Oct 7, 2005 9:51 AM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by randymar:
A gourd IS a fruit.<HR>


It's also a band. Check em out, they're fock'n great...

www.thegourds.com[/URL" target="_blank">
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1,084. Oct 7, 2005 9:53 AM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by randymar:
Next time I see Sam Calagione, I'll mention it.<HR>


You should just write to him. He'll probably write back - he did me. Very nice guy, likes to answer his mail...
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1,085. Oct 7, 2005 10:18 AM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by randymar:
A gourd IS a fruit.<HR>


Details
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1,086. Oct 7, 2005 4:11 PM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
Apparently everyone has gone home already. Have a lovely week-end and don't forget to go out an buy your new car. It's the American way!!!
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1,087. Oct 7, 2005 4:15 PM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by La Tortuga:
Apparently everyone has gone home already. Have a lovely week-end and don't forget to go out an buy your new car. It's the American way!!!<HR>


I'm getting a Japanese one!!!
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1,088. Oct 7, 2005 4:31 PM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by MikeMills:
I'm getting a Japanese one!!!<HR>


Hybrid?
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1,089. Oct 7, 2005 4:35 PM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by La Tortuga:
Hybrid?<HR>


No, my parents are both English.
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1,090. Oct 10, 2005 11:46 AM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
Victory Festbier

quote:<HR>from the website:
Seductively smooth, this medium-bodied amber beauty is akin to the great Oktoberfest beers of Munich. All German hops make this lager true to style. Patient cold aging makes it wonderfully smooth.<HR>


It is, in a word, "friendly." It's nice. It's happy. It's polite. It's says "please" and "thank you." It says "may I?" not "can I?" It's HopDevil, after a yoga class..
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1,091. Dec 20, 2007 8:00 PM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
It was cold and rainy in New Jersey last night. I might finally get a win in my Fantasy Football league (I was up 104-55; my opponent only had Drew Brees left to play). "Four Minutes" - the ESPN Original Movie about Roger Bannister's attempts to break the 4-minute mile - would be on at 9:00. I was oh so tempted to try that Dogtoberfest, but I just couldn't bring myself to it.

I went with Blind Faith.

http://This message has been edited by randymar (edited Oct-11-2005).
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1,092. Oct 12, 2005 9:28 AM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
quote:<HR>Originally posted by randymar:
Victory Festbier[/B]<HR>


I ain't had sh*t for Oktoberfest yet.
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1,094. Oct 12, 2005 4:57 PM in response to: therealman
Re: Beer
Why alcohol calories are more important than you think...
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Successful weight loss is all about oxidizing (or burning), more calories than you eat. When they go on a diet, many people choose low-calorie alcoholic drinks, mainly because they contain fewer alcohol calories than their regular counterparts.

However, drinking too much has a far more damaging effect than you can predict simply by looking at the number of alcohol calories in a drink. Not only does it reduce the number of fat calories you burn, alcohol can increase your appetite and lower your testosterone levels for up to 24 hours after you finish drinking.

Alcohol calories
According to conventional wisdom, the infamous "beer belly" is caused by excess alcohol calories being stored as fat. Yet, less than five percent of the alcohol calories you drink are turned into fat. Rather, the main effect of alcohol is to reduce the amount of fat your body burns for energy.

Some evidence for this comes from research carried in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition [4]. Eight men were given two drinks of vodka and sugar-free lemonade separated by 30 minutes. Each drink contained just under 90 calories. Fat metabolism was measured before and after consumption of the drink. For several hours after drinking the vodka, whole body lipid oxidation (a measure of how much fat your body is burning) dropped by a massive 73%.


Rather than getting stored as fat, the main fate of alcohol is conversion into a substance called acetate. In fact, blood levels of acetate after drinking the vodka were 2.5 times higher than normal. And it appears this sharp rise in acetate puts the brakes on fat loss.

A car engine typically uses only one source of fuel. Your body, on the other hand, draws from a number of different energy sources, such as carbohydrate, fat, and protein. To a certain extent, the source of fuel your body uses is dictated by its availability.

In other words, your body tends to use whatever you feed it. Consequently, when acetate levels rise, your body simply burns more acetate, and less fat. In essence, acetate pushes fat to the back of the queue.

So, to summarize and review, here's what happens to fat metabolism after the odd drink or two.

? A small portion of the alcohol is converted into fat.

? Your liver then converts most of the alcohol into acetate.

? The acetate is then released into your bloodstream, and replaces fat as a source of fuel.

The way your body responds to alcohol is very similar to the way it deals with excess carbohydrate. Although carbohydrate can be converted directly into fat, one of the main effects of overfeeding with carbohydrate is that it simply replaces fat as a source of energy. That's why any type of diet, whether it's high-fat, high-protein, or high-carbohydrate, can lead to a gain in weight.

Appetite
The combination of alcohol and a high-calorie meal is especially fattening, mainly because alcohol acts as a potent appetizer. A Canadian study shows that an aperitif (an alcoholic drink taken before a meal to increase the appetite) increased calorie intake to a greater extent than a carbohydrate-based drink [5].

Not only does alcohol put the brakes on fat loss, it's also one of the most effective ways to slash your testosterone levels. Just a single bout of heavy drinking raises levels of the muscle-wasting hormone cortisol and increases the breakdown of testosterone for up to 24 hours [6]. The damaging effects of alcohol on testosterone are made even worse when you exercise before drinking [1].

The effect of alcohol on testosterone could be one reason that people who drink a lot carry less muscle. In fact, a 1993 study shows that alcoholic men have bigger waists and smaller muscles than teetotalers [2].

Although an alcohol-rich meal does increase your metabolic rate, it also suppresses the number of fat calories your body burns for energy ? far more so than meals rich in protein, carbohydrate, or fat [3]. While the odd drink now and again isn't going to hurt, the bottom line is that alcohol and a leaner, stronger body just doesn't mix.

Wow! After reading that I really need a beer!