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Click to view tallrunner's profile Legend 574 posts since
Aug 16, 2007
15. Dec 7, 2005 10:27 PM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
Yes but it's not in the record books as official.

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Click to view CWorthen's profile Pro 94 posts since
Oct 23, 2002
16. Dec 7, 2005 10:35 PM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
quote:<HR>Originally posted by tallrunner:
Yes but it's not in the record books as official.

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Did you check?
Click to view maryt091's profile Legend 806 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
18. Dec 8, 2005 5:50 AM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
I've known a couple of pretty fast couples who have run with strollers. In small races, if you know what you're doing, they usually aren't a problem, and the couples in question were experienced runners familiar with the courses they raced and were careful to keep out of the way of other runners.

HOWEVER, I have seen some pretty close calls in crowded races, and have heard others complain about having their heels clipped by strollers, especially in the beginning when everyone's really close or on tight turns. Mr T saw the end of one really bad collision on a turn - the stroller overturned and the baby was thrown out onto the ground in the middle of a crowded pck of runners. I don't know if there was any serious injury or not.
Click to view CWorthen's profile Pro 94 posts since
Oct 23, 2002
19. Dec 8, 2005 8:39 AM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
quote:<HR>Originally posted by JasonsDrivingForce:
Wow I thought 34:20 was fast for a 10K with a stroller. Sub 15 in a 5k is absolutely flying! At that speed I don't think you could really even control the jogging stroller. I would hope that course didn't have any sharp corners because at that speed even the large diameter wheeled strollers would tip over. Do you have a particular name of anyone who has done a sub 15 5K with a stroller? That is quite a feat!<HR>



Jerry Lawson pushing a friends kid. But the source of that is Letsrun so who knows.
Click to view tallrunner's profile Legend 574 posts since
Aug 16, 2007
20. Dec 8, 2005 11:09 AM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
To miles and miles

Yes I checked no record is ratified in the Guiness Book of Records. So obviously it's possible for someone to go faster but my point is the first record will go to who gets its ratified.

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Click to view raiden092903's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Dec 27, 2005
21. Dec 27, 2005 11:01 PM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
quote:<HR>Originally posted by JasonsDrivingForce:
Any Competitive Jogging stroller runners out there?

I searched through these forums and I didn?t find many people who run with a jogging stroller competitively. Anyone out there race with a jogging stroller consistently? I have run 12+ races each of the last two years with my son. The only race that I don?t do with him is the Race for the cure because it has 15000+ entrants. With that many people it is unsafe to with a stroller even though several people still do it. I did my first training run without the stroller in almost 2 years yesterday. I ran a 20:28 for the 5K which is 21 seconds off my personal best for that course of 20:07. Strange how I actually run faster with the stroller? I think I have gotten so used to running without moving my arms that I could not adjust to it when I ran without the stroller. I know my form is terrible now because I have had to adapt it to the stroller. Oh well, I don?t think I would ever want to run without him! Next step, break 20 minutes with the stroller!
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Click to view raiden092903's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Dec 27, 2005
22. Dec 27, 2005 11:12 PM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
I am a former competitive runner who is trying to run with my 27 month old son. What kind of traing do you do? All my running friends think that I should be running without my son, but I have no choice. I am very interested in your training.
quote:<HR>Originally posted by JasonsDrivingForce:
Any Competitive Jogging stroller runners out there?

I searched through these forums and I didn?t find many people who run with a jogging stroller competitively. Anyone out there race with a jogging stroller consistently? I have run 12+ races each of the last two years with my son. The only race that I don?t do with him is the Race for the cure because it has 15000+ entrants. With that many people it is unsafe to with a stroller even though several people still do it. I did my first training run without the stroller in almost 2 years yesterday. I ran a 20:28 for the 5K which is 21 seconds off my personal best for that course of 20:07. Strange how I actually run faster with the stroller? I think I have gotten so used to running without moving my arms that I could not adjust to it when I ran without the stroller. I know my form is terrible now because I have had to adapt it to the stroller. Oh well, I don?t think I would ever want to run without him! Next step, break 20 minutes with the stroller!
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Click to view kudzurunner's profile Legend 523 posts since
Dec 6, 2007
24. Dec 28, 2005 7:17 PM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
Jason:

Your kid's been lucky so far, and I don't mean fortunate.

I don't often hear tell of what might be called a socially questionable behavior and immediately say, "You must be kidding." I played with a bluesman named Satan for more than a dozen years, and not everybody was in favor of that. In general, I'm a to-each-his-own kind of libertarian guy.

With all due respect, I think you're unwise to race with your son--not least because your behavior will surely inspire other slower and less coordinated runners to try the same thing, and a helpless kid, sooner or later, is sure to get hurt badly, or killed. It's just bound to happen. Not on your watch, probably, but on somebody else's.

I'm a libertarian, as I say. 'Taint nobody's business what I do, etc. I think it's a cool idea to take the kid for a ride in a jog-stroller in a park, where there's no danger of encountering cars. But competition is different--terrifically self-focused as the situation demands that we be. I assume that your kid is at least making a pretense of enjoying the ride; it's hard for me to imagine that you'd force a screaming tyke to go along with your racing plan, or that bystanders wouldn't shut you down. Still, I wonder about the power of compulsion that strong, driven runner-types--not necessarily you; those your behavior inspires--exerts over a young child who wants to please Daddy.

It sounds as though you pick and choose your races carefully, so that what you're doing is more on the order of an organized time trial with non-interfering runners ahead and behind you. That's better than deciding NOT to race with your kid in hand, but not much.

I never, ever thought I'd hear myself uttering the sentence, "That's in bad taste," but the idea of comparing race times--times pushing a kid in a stroller--well: That's in bad taste. Why not add additional categories for pushing pets (including lizards and cockatoos), potted plants, and, heck, the occasional corpse. Yes, I'm engagaging in reductio ad absurdum. I think road racing--and track racing, god knows!--is something that should be participated in by people capable of signing on the dotted line. Kids, too. Your kid DOES sign the waiver, doesn't he? Or doesn't he? I don't believe you've made that clear. If he doesn't, there's bound to be a problem sooner or later.
Click to view kudzurunner's profile Legend 523 posts since
Dec 6, 2007
26. Dec 29, 2005 12:08 PM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
You've raised fair points, and certainly leave me disinclined to condemn you personally. You approach what seems to me a morally questionable activity with a heads-up attitude; you've clearly thought through what you do. Certainly it's important to point out, as you have, that your kid actually likes the activity. I'd even be willing to stipulate that you're pretty much the model dad among jog-stroller racers. And you've fairly pointed out that you can't be responsible, finally, for less conscientious or less skilled daddies who might end up wreaking havoc.

Still, the idea of racing with a kid in hand (so to speak) leaves me morally queasy. I'm not sure why, and it's in my nature to question my own reactions.

(Full disclosure: I'm expecting my first kid in late March. I'll be 48 in early April. I run 40 mpw. I'm unsure of how becoming a dad will interface with fatherhood. So I'm naturally interested in any and all permutations.)

Is there, for example, a parallel for this sort of thing in any other sport? For cross country ski racing with a kid strapped to one's back? For skydiving with a kid strapped to one's chest? Sometimes parallels, or false parallels, help elucidate the moral calculus.

The desire or lack of desire of the kid in question to participate can't finally be determinative. Obviously if the kid doesn't want to participate, the activity is wrong, it seems to me. But there are all kinds of things that kids want to do that we stop them from doing because we think they're dangerous, unwise, wrong, etc. This is particularly true for things that WE do, and love to do. We don't let 8-year olds run marathons, as much as we love to run marathons.

Is the activiity, for you, about father-son togetherness? Are you a team? Does your son cheer you on when the going gets tough? Are you his horsie, in effect?

Or is it about you? Is it about proving that fatherhood, far from blunting your edge, has freed you to play things even closer to the edge? Standard understandings of fatherhood suggest that more selflessness and prudence are required, not less.

I'll continue to ponder this.
Click to view CWorthen's profile Pro 94 posts since
Oct 23, 2002
27. Dec 29, 2005 12:28 PM in response to: JasonsDrivingForce
Don't let your kid play soccer they might get hurt. Don't let your kid go to amusement parks they could get hurt. Don't let your kid play outside they might get a sunburn. Don't let your kid run they might get tired. Don't take them in a car you could get in an accident. Watch out for airplanes too. I wouldn't let him sit on a couch, my kids have fallen off and cried. Have you seen the stuff on TV? Don't let them watch at all.

I am wondering have you ever pushed a jogging stroller before?