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Tim71180 Rookie 7 posts since
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Jun 26, 2009 6:07 PM

Ok 2 things

Greetings, first an introduction, I turn 42 in July and have been running in some fashion since highschool, into the Marines for 5 years and now in law enforcement.  It keeps the wolf away from the back door if you know what I mean.

 

Just finished the Pittsburgh half marathon last month.  Had a blast.  Yes it was my first half marathon.  Im registered to run MCM this year as I always wanted to run this marathon.

 

My question arises from the past two weeks in preparing for the MCM my runs no matter what distance are not what they used to be.  I just have NO energy at all.  Three miles seems to be a chore.  I had been running between 4 and 5 miles 6 days a week.  Was mountain biking if i got to close to an injury.  I just cant shake this tired feeling.  Nothing has changed in my life, if anything im healthier than I was a year ago when I got serious about training.  Lost 20 lbs.  

 

ANY HELP PLEASE

 

Tim

Immer treu We're Not Worthy 4,283 posts since
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1. Jun 26, 2009 6:23 PM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

 

Potential issues:

 

 

Heat takes energy out of anyone.....Stay hydrated, work into it.........

 

 

Health: anemia, electrolyte problem, thyroid, pacemaker problems...........Get a check-up

 

 

Stress, sleep, infections, nutrition, recovery from Pittsburgh

 

 

 

 

 

MCM is too much fun to miss; here's hoping you turn it around quickly!

 

 

 

 

 

zoom1 Legend 273 posts since
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2. Jun 26, 2009 6:39 PM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

1.  You may be suffering from exhaustion.  Running 6 days is a lot to ask of your body.  The vast majority of the training programs out there that I've seen do not have runners doing that many runs.  You might want to add an extra rest day or do some sort of cross training.  Rest is good. It's how our body rebuild and recover from all of the pounding.  Take a look at Hal Hidgdon, Galloway, Furman, and Runner's World training programs to give you an idea of what you should be doing.  I guaranteed you that 90% of the people who show up at the starting line of the MCM do not run 6 days a week for 20+ weeks.   Most people do 3-5 days with cross training days and/or rest days sprinkled in there.

 

2.  How fast are you running at the beginning of your runs ?  If you run a little bit slower than you normally run at the start of your run and let your body warm up to the run, you will notice that you will feel better at the end of your runs.

 

3.  Nutrition also plays an important role.  I'm talking about what you eat before you run, during the run, and after the run to recover for the next run.  Are you taking gels or sports drink during your runs ?  Those will help with your energy level.  How well are you hydrating ?

 

4.  Sleep.  How much sleep are you getting ?  This also plays a role.

 

5.  You should have a plan of attack for your training routine.  You shouldn't just go out and run 6 days a week for 20 weeks and expect things to go smoothly.  A good training routine allows you to build up and peak around October.  If you are running the same amount now as you will in July, Aug, Sept, and October then you are doing yourself a disservice.  It's ok to run 6 days a week but you have to build up to it instead of jumping in 6 days a week right away.

 

6.  Find a training plan.  There are plenty of free ones out there on the Internet beside all the ones I mentioned in #1.  Find that plan and follow it.  Use it as a guide.  It will allow you to know what you should be doing. 

 

7.  Rest is good.  Rest is good.  Rest is good.  Remember that.  It seems to me like you are not getting enough of that.  It also sounds to me like you are doing too much too soon and your body is telling you that it's a no no.  I have run more marathons than you have fingers.  My body can take a good pounding but if I were to run 6 times a week like you, my body would react the same way that yours is reacting right now.

 

 





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MCM Ron Legend 1,507 posts since
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3. Jun 26, 2009 7:21 PM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

 

Welcome, Tim! 

 

 

I've frequently felt the same lately about 3 miles being a chore.  Shoot, I did less than 1 1/2 today just because it felt pretty lousy.  Figured I needed the rest.  For me, its the heat, humidity, and lack of sleep that I blame. 

 

 

One other comment, it may be that when you've pushed through the first 3, the next 3 may seem much better.  Often the case for me. 

 

 

But the others are right about rest.  Rest is good.

 

 





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lenzlaw Community Moderator 7,024 posts since
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4. Jun 26, 2009 9:05 PM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

Three things:

 

 

 

  • Welcome Tim! You've come to a good place for help and advice. And we're happy to have you here.

 

 

 

  • A bunch of us were at Pittsburgh too, mostly marathon, but at least one for the half and some for the relay.

 

 

 

  • I'll echo what the others have said. My first thought was "you're overtraining", running 6 days a week. Are you following the "hard/easy" method, always taking an easy day after a hard day? A number of other things were mentioned that you should review: overall health, diet, sleep, hydration, weather, training methods, recovery from Pittsburgh, etc. All these may have an effect.

 

 

 

 

 

Let us know how it's going.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Len





We've come this far and it's still the same,
Runnin' out here in the rain.
Just one more mile, if only you could fly.
(Apologies to T. Rush and J. Tempchin, for the paraphrase)

FLKaren Legend 1,194 posts since
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6. Jun 27, 2009 10:21 AM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

Maybe you need a mental break. Have you tried running different routes, trying different techniques (run fast for 1 minute, slow for 3 or something along those lines) or a training partner or group might give you something new to think about on your runs.





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CWCastelli Legend 269 posts since
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7. Jun 29, 2009 5:41 AM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

 

Any other symptoms?  I don't mean to scare you, but I experienced similar problems starting about a year ago and found out I had a 95% blockage in a major artery.  My first symptoms were general lethargy, followed by just and inability to catch my breath after running for a few minutes.  I've since had it fixed (last September) and ran both the Pittsburgh Marathon and the Marine Corps Historic Half this past May. As the others stated above, it is probably overtraining, but it never hurts to get a check-up just to make sure.

 

 

 

Chris

 

 





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thefirecat Community Moderator 2,399 posts since
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9. Jun 30, 2009 4:30 AM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

Hmmmmm. Everyone has really good ideas (listen to Len. ALWAYS listen to Len. Also Zoom. They know whereof they speak.)

 

If it's not physical, your brain might need a vacation. Yes, your brain. After races, I've noticed my brain goes into a nosedive for a couple of weeks, especially if I'm not immediately in training for something else. I just go into "blah" mode and every mile is a chore.

 

It's also especially possible if you live in one of the areas where the weather has been inconceivably stupid for the past month. In the northeast, it's pretty much rained for a month, with the decent weather just returning last week. It's been truly awful, and most of my runs have sucked as a result, because I was just in a foul mood.

 

Whatever it is, let us know you're ok!





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BOSNPM Legend 221 posts since
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10. Jun 30, 2009 5:35 AM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

Heart rate monitor should help tell you when you are over training.  All post were very good advice.  If you are running where you heart rate is higher than it should be rest.

ragamuffinruns Pro 113 posts since
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12. Jul 9, 2009 1:54 PM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

Hey Tim, Hope your physical went ok.  One thing I've had to do is seek out Doctors who are also athletes themselves and know what being a runner means.  Even if you're and old and slow girl like me, you are still going to run and not "hang it up" due to a bump or two in the road.  I've been dismissed ( Dissed?) by more than one Doctor so find someone you can trust and develop a rapport with them. Happy recovery!





Back to running - or run/walk as I prepare for Phil. HM run.  To God be the glory!

JerryX Legend 847 posts since
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13. Jul 9, 2009 4:01 PM in response to: Tim71180
Re: Ok 2 things

 

Find a group to train with on long runs...sharing how you feel or even running together quietly provides a real lift. 

 

 

its a community!

 

 





Happy Running!

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