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Click to view faceboard's profile Amateur 26 posts since
Sep 6, 2002

Jul 13, 2006 12:51 PM

Dealing with race pain

I run every race like its the most important race of my life and really put my body to the test. I am interested how others deal with the a discomfort of a race.
Click to view lansingrunner068's profile Amateur 27 posts since
Jun 26, 2006
1. Jul 13, 2006 2:37 PM in response to: faceboard
I feel pain in races but usually not until the last mile. I take the 1st mile of a 5k somewhat easy (maybe too conservatively for fear of ruining my race). The 2nd mile I try to hold that pace. The 3rd mile I give my best.
Click to view WI MTP's profile Legend 461 posts since
Jan 7, 2006
2. Jul 13, 2006 2:41 PM in response to: faceboard
I used to do that, now I choose which races are important and which races are workouts. The last 2 weekends the races where work outs - I am in the process of building mileage and
week # 1) Ran 103 miles with a 5k at @ 98% effort and
week # 2) Ran 116 miles with a 10K @ 96% effort

The 5k was @ 8 seconds per mile faster than my LAT pace and the 10K was about 4 seconds per mile faster than LAT pace.

Running them a little below full effort allows me to have a good Sunday long Run (20 / 25 miles) where a 10K full out would not.

In 2 weeks I have a 5 mile Cross Country race I will lay it on the line and in 4 weeks a 10K that I will do the same. I am not actually peaking for these races, but I will take it easy the day before.
Click to view MaineRunner2001's profile Legend 267 posts since
Mar 15, 2002
3. Jul 13, 2006 3:36 PM in response to: faceboard
I select two races a year, and treat them as goal races. I taper for those two races. I start at a pace that will meet my aggressive goal, usually 5 to 10 seconds per mile faster than I should. I have "blown up" in some of those races.

The other four or five races I do a year, I train through. I do not taper. I shoot for even or negative splits. These races give me experience of finishing strong or just on the verge of blowing up.

I guess I deal with race discomfort by racing in different ways.

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Click to view megapronator's profile Legend 280 posts since
Nov 6, 2000
4. Jul 14, 2006 2:04 PM in response to: faceboard
I've heard a lot of people say that you shouldn't feel pain in a race. This is not true. There is a difference between normal race pain, and the pain of an injury, but let's face it - races hurt, and hurt a lot. If they don't, it is called a training run.

One thing that helps with being able to deal with hurting in a race is to practice it. Racing on a fairly regular bases helps maintain the ability to push yourself to the limit. But it also helps to do hard tempo runs and long intervals that help sumulate what you will experience in the race itself. Easy runs and short intervals just don't do that.

In a relatively short race (10K or less) the first half usually feels fast but controlled. At around 1/2 way is when it starts to become a struggle. The entire 2nd half should feel uncomfortable, but on a good day it doesn't really hurt until the final 1/4 of the race. In a marathon, you should feel comfortable much longer into the race. If you are struggling at all before 18-20 miles, then you are in trouble.

One key to racing well is figuring out how hard you can push your body, and how much pain at what point in the race is okay and still allows you to hold pace to the finish. Many people simply don't approach what their physical limits are in races. I think many people would benefit from occasionally going out a little too fast in a short race (not a marathon!) and trying to hang on. Especially for a novice racer, you may find you are able to sustain a higher intensity than you thought was possible.

Another way you can judge if you raced as hard as you could of is how long it takes to recover. Even running easily, a marathon will almost always leave a runner quite sore for many days afterwards. But how do you feel for the next few days after a 5K or 10K? It is normal to be sore enough for one or even two days after a hard workout that you are unable to run anything expect an easy run. A goal race should be at a much higher intensity than a hard workout, so you should expect to be very sore for 2-3 days even after a short race like a 5K. To push yourself hard enough to be that sore, you will hurt during the race itself.

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Click to view Johnny J013's profile Legend 358 posts since
May 21, 2003
5. Jul 15, 2006 1:27 AM in response to: faceboard
I was thinking about this on an easy recovery run tonight. What is the time limit people can tolerate "the pain". Obviously there is the pain (you're really struggling, and it's hurting, but you can keep going at the same pace with considerable effort). And then there's the major pain. Those last 20-30 seconds of a race when you think you're done but you smell the finish and somehow dig deeper to pull out a last burst of speed from somewhere. The vision starts to fuzz a little and become tunnel like. The breathing is 1 to 1, and the legs just fly, but it won't last long.

So how long do people think they can run for in pain, and in major pain? I was thinking about 8-10 minutes maybe in the pain, then maybe 30 seconds in major pain. I can do uncomfortable, very hard, but not quite pain for 30-45 minutes (the last 10k of a marathon). But pain, honestly I can only hack it for probably a couple miles at best. I'm sure elite runners have ways of coping and probably can continue to push when at this painful state. Fast finish long runs and progression longer tempo runs have helped me lenghten the time I can tolerate the pain, but long intervals are a good idea mentioned by megapronator. I'll have to try those.

I do think the mind can only do so much. Much of it is training and preparation. I used to come up with all kinds of crazy mind tricks for a marathon such as some family member in dire danger and I was the only hope to run for help-- their life depended on it, etc., etc. But the reality is practicing pain in training and building up the time you can tolerate it week in and week out has been much more effective, and then I can actually race and focus on beating others in a race (that is what it's about, right?), and the times have started to take care of themselves (improving for me anyway).
Click to view tuscaloosarunner's profile Legend 728 posts since
Apr 7, 2006
6. Jul 19, 2006 12:04 PM in response to: faceboard
Totally agree w/ megapronator.

To piggyback his comment, I'd also like to add that during hard workouts and races, when the pain comes, it's time to focus in and relax. I check my body and locate any sources of tension; I look to see what (or who) is in front of me and focus solely on that landmark; I try not to think about what is a 1/2 mile down the line, but focus on the immediate.

Of courese, some days are better than others, but when I'm able to feel like I'm "floating" rather than "pushing" hard, I'm most likely having a good run.