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Last post: Nov 9, 2009 12:58 PM by Durunner RSS
JeanieISN Pro 79 posts since
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Nov 2, 2009 11:10 AM

Anyone else doing Philly? Bueller?

I'm just wondering how many others on this board are doing Philly? I am and it will be my first marathon. I've heard mixed things about the course- some say flat, some say hilly.

 

Let's hope for better weather than last year. I did the half last year in the 19 degree cold. The running wasn't so bad once you're body got warmed up, but the waiting for the start was brutal.

 

Getting excited!

 

Jeanie

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1. Nov 2, 2009 12:13 PM in response to: JeanieISN
Re: Anyone else doing Philly? Bueller?

i am - and i plan to run in my vibram five fingers - 19 degrees - burrrrrrr....lets hope we get something warmer than that - thank you under armour





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Durunner Expert 57 posts since
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2. Nov 12, 2009 5:42 PM in response to: marley mission
Re: Anyone else doing Philly? Bueller?

I'll be doing my first marathon there as well.  I can walk to the starting line from my apartment in 10 minutes, so that'll be a good plus.  It's a very flat course with only a couple hills.  There is a hill right at the end which I would imagine is tough at that point, but I don't find it to be a problem during normal training runs.  Hopefully it'll be a nice day because it can get quite windy along the river (which a lot of the 2nd half of the course is).  It's definitely a good tour of the city.  I ran the first part of the course (through center city) once and I run on parts of the 2nd half of the course almost every day.

 

Not sure where everyone is coming from, but the weather has sucked here lately.  We've had a lot of rain.  It's seemed every one of my long runs has been during rain.

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3. Nov 2, 2009 1:50 PM in response to: Durunner
Re: Anyone else doing Philly? Bueller?

I'm running the half. It's my first race after major surgery at the end of July; I didn't figure I'd be in any shape for a full. Maybe next year....

 

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Stevemustangred Legend 644 posts since
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4. Nov 2, 2009 6:12 PM in response to: Durunner
Re: Anyone else doing Philly? Bueller?

I ran Philly last year the day after running Rehoboth Beach.  Both races were sub freezing, actually they were colder than the '09 Antarctica Marathon.  The Rehoboth Beach marathon is flat.  Philly is not a flat course by any stretch of the imagination.  There are a few flat spots but there are certainly hills.





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5. Nov 2, 2009 7:59 PM in response to: JeanieISN
Re: Anyone else doing Philly? Bueller?

If you ran the half last year, the second half is more of the same.  There's one major hill (Lemon Hill), the rest relatively flat with some gradual up and down sections - Kelly Drive and Main Street in Manayunk.  (You have to go to the 2009 USATF Certified Full Course Map to see the Lemon Hill part.)

 

Typical weather is low to mid 40s, sometimes windy, sometimes wet.

 

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Imgellin Legend 439 posts since
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7. Nov 9, 2009 10:50 AM in response to: JeanieISN
Re: Anyone else doing Philly? Bueller?

Jeannie, I've been reading the responses, here, about the course at the Philadelphia Marathon, and it sounds identical to the way the Indianapolis Marathon has been described. From the "definitely not flat" to "there's a big hill at the end" to "it can get windy in the second half". I trained here, north of Boston with some moderate hills on my long run but nothing to write home (or in Ferris' case, to call in sick) about.

 

I did not even see a hill at Indianapolis. Nothing I would call a hill. The "big hill at the end"? Well...All I can say is it certainly was no hill. You sound like you have a great attitude, so that and the fact that the hills at Philadelphia might be smaller than what you presently train on should make it easy-going. As far as the breeze or wind in the second half of your marathon goes, if you encounter any breeze, it will be just what you need at that point. You'll love it. I had a 5 mph head-wind at Indianapolis and it was awesome. Then again, it was in the low 40's, temperature-wise.

 

As long as you are not training on something that is racetrack-flat right now, you'll be so pumped up you will fly over those hills. If you see a hill that is a real hill, just remember to put it in low gear: Decrease pace, keep exertion level the same.

 

Hey! Good luck!

 

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Durunner Expert 57 posts since
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8. Nov 9, 2009 12:58 PM in response to: Imgellin
Re: Anyone else doing Philly? Bueller?

I agree with what you said Paul.  I guess I could see where someone would consider it hilly as in there are a couple hills.  If compared to a beachtown pancake flat course like Rehoboth Beach would be, it certainly is hilly.  If you train anywhere that resembles the Philly Suburbs or most of the northeast for that matter, I'd consider it flat.  I came from the Allentown area originally and that is hilly.  Compared to it, Philly is easy.  I think the hill at the end is very easy, but I've never run it after over 25 miles, so we'll see.  Lemon Hill is a little challenging, but still not super long or steep IMO.  None of the course is steep like the nearby Manayunk Wall.

 

As for the wind, it is hit or miss because the route is along the river.  Sometimes, it's brutal and the next day it's no issue at all.  That said, it still won't be as bad as it gets in Jan or Feb.

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