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Ericd3043 Pro 84 posts since
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30. Nov 1, 2009 7:38 PM in response to: nikkicarr1
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Nikki - you are doing fine.  It is also possible that you were just having an off day.  More than likely, you were just pacing yourself knowing that you were going to run longer.  I would not worry as you seem to be doing everything right.

 

As for your questions, I am certainly no expert - but here is what I have done the days up to the races I have run.  My races are usually on Saturdays, so you would need to adjust the schedule for your Sunday race.

 

1)  The Thursday and Friday before the race, I do not run.  Thursday would be a cross training day 1/2 hour - non impact aerobic exercise (elliptical machine, etc).

 

2)  The rest of the week, I would run 5K's (but up until recently, that is all I ran.).  I think the week before my next 5K on Thanksgiving day, I will run a 10K on Sunday and then 1 5K during the week and 2 days of cross training.

 

3)  The night before, I make sure I get to sleep plenty early.  The morning of - I make sure that I am at the registration table at least 30 min before the start of the race.  I might get there earlier, depending on the weather conditions.  Colder/ wet - I would give myself 45 min to 1 hour to warm up, etc.

 

4)  I have been told that on the Thursday night before the race, load up on carbs.  I have not verified this with anyone else.  Can someone else comment?  The morning of, I usually eat a bowl of oatmeal, 1/2 of grapefruit and some OJ.

 

As for where you run... if you are running at the 8 - 9 min miles.... put yourself in the middle of the pack.  The walkers will be in the back.  You will find that 24 - 25 min race will be in the middle of the pack to finish.  I would suggest that you find someone running a good pace and run with them.  Even though you have the Nike+ system, running with someone at an even pace will help you avoid running faster than you are used to.

 

Anyway, good luck and keep it up.

 

BTW - I got the odd idea to try and run 10 miles tonight (I watched the NYC marathon today and was motivated to run longer than usual).  I finished in 1 hour 23 min +/-.  Not a bad time...





My race times (2009)

Vince Tantillo/ Jack Barr Memorial Run 5K:  26:37

Waynesboro Firecracker 5K:  26:47

Tom Ausherman Memorial 5 mile Run:  44:50

Great Frederick Fair Race 5K:  26:42

CitiCorp 5K Heart Run  :  25:49   Finished 13th, 2nd in my class! (though, only 43 racers)

2009 Turkey Trot : Hagerstown 5K  25 minutes 27 seconds... another personal best!  Results pending before I know where I placed!

Check out my Blog :  My journey to the Ultra Marathon....

Jaye Orrell Amateur 19 posts since
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31. Nov 1, 2009 8:18 PM in response to: shosho27
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Here's a link to some coached interval and speed training podcasts that might help you if you liked the c25k podcasts.  A 10K series is in the works but probably won't go live until the first quarter 2010.

 

itunes link: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=323773207

 

online link:  http://www.runningmate.podomatic.com

SassafrassaGSO Pro 97 posts since
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32. Nov 2, 2009 9:09 AM in response to: shosho27
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Hello, All!

 

Nikki--You are going to do great!  Your pace sounds amazing to me, and you seem like you are very prepared for your upcoming race.  As far as carb loading, I've heard mixed information.  Most of what I have read recently says that you should eat a healthy diet with protein and carb balance the night before...but not the big pasta dinner that you've no doubt heard about.  It's better to eat a more normal meal. Stick to what you've been eating rather than try something new.

 

Eric--if you find out some good diet tips, please share them!  I find so much conflicting information out there, it would be good to hear some information "straight from the horse's mouth" if you know what I mean.

 

I have run twice since I last posted...both of them went really well!  Saturday I went for a run with my sweetie, and we ran 3.75 miles in 42:28--average pace of 11:20 with a big sprint at the end.  I was winded and tired, but it felt good overall.  My right knee was a little twingy on Saturday night, but felt better by Sunday.  Today, I ran 2.5 per the Hal Higdon schedule, and ran it in 27:18 and GET THIS--I ran an average pace of 10:44!!  I broke the 11:00 mm average--on my hilly course, too!!  Woo-HOO! Knees feel great, my muscles are a bit sore cause I was running hard, but I feel GOOD. I love runs like this.  It makes you feel so strong and capable. Lovin' life this morning!!  I know it's not speedy compared to some, but for me, this was a huge breakthrough.

 

Good luck to everyone this week in your training and preps for races.  Talk to you soon...

 

Sara





"The difference between a jogger and a runner is an entry blank." 
-George Sheehan

nikkicarr1 Pro 63 posts since
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33. Nov 2, 2009 12:05 PM in response to: shosho27
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Eric and Sassafrass: thank you both for the advice, tips and words of encouragement, I am so stoked and nervous at the same time.  The more prepared I can feel the less likely I will puke before the race, not litterally (i don't think).

 

I love that my SIL will be running with me but at the same time not.  Maybe I sound crazy but when is was just me I kind of liked the idea that I was running with a bunch of strangers who I would never see again if I fell on my face and wouldn't have anyone I know watching me finish be cause I just may cry (literally). But she is running with me so I won't be alone and now her husband my MIL and our kids will all be there, now I am excited to have the support but afraid that I will look like a goober in front of all of them, not to mention that it kind of makes me sad that the only person missing will be my husband. and to top it all off today was a let down.  I ran and I ran a good time but over all it sucked and has me even more nervous that sunday will be bad.  I was going for 4mi but only did 3.15mi at an

8:22 pace,http://nikerunning.nike.com/n/r/en_US/1946840436/671102009/?sitesrc=fbk_ab_plus   I got attacked by a cat, run over by a dog chasing a squirrel and then got a huge cramp in my right calf, so I had to end short.  All in all todays run made me scared that I will fail (myself) on Sunday.

 

Is it normal to feel so many things all at once over a race?  I just think way too much, and as evidenced by todays post I am just rambling because of all this rolling around in my head!!!!!!!!!!!!





so I dont know how to add the link but I do blog on here, if you want to know more about me, just go through my profile page

First Race:  Operation Troop Appreciation 2009 5k 29:44 5th in age group

Ericd3043 Pro 84 posts since
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34. Nov 3, 2009 11:31 AM in response to: nikkicarr1
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Nikki-  I hate to say this, but I could not help laughing when I read what happened during your run.  That is normal, it happens... and (most likely) will not happen during the race.

 

You will be fine.  Don't worry and do not really worry about your time.  Run your race, pace yourself where you will have enough in the "tank" for when you come near the finish line (I love it when I have enough to sprint to the end... but almost collapse when I cross - it means I paced myself right)

 

You have family that will be watching and enjoy the fact that they are there.  On Thanksgiving, I will have my wife, 3 kids and in laws all there.  Of course, they are all wanting to watch the girls and I am an after thought to them - but my daughters really get excited to see daddy run (same thing for when I play softball).

 

Again, you will be FINE. Do not worry and enjoy yourself.  Your times are fine and even if you run a 10 min mile, if you finish it... you should be happy.  Just remember what you did and try to improve for the next time.

 

As for the nutrition, the guy I was talking with last night is actually the local HS indoor track coach... so I picked his brain and what he does (he cannot run, but does work out with the kids and also refs hockey games)

 

1)  He suggested to load up on carbs 2 days prior (the proverbial big plate of pasta).  It will be digested and ready to burn off during the race.

 

2)  Within an hour after the race, load up on protein and sugar.  He recommended something in a liquid form as it will digest faster and help with the recovery.  If you have to make something and then eat it, it will take much longer to get into your system.

 

3)  He makes a protein shake after workouts.  He said he gets about 45-50 grams of protein in the shake.  One thing to note, the amount of sugar is unreal.  But, he says, it helps with the absorbtion and metabolism of the body to lose fat and build muscle.  It seems odd to have a shake after running (shakes are usually not healthy) , but he said he actually lost weight by doing this right before bed.

 

4)  Hydrate.... Hydrate... Hydrate....During, before and after the runs.  Try to at least take in the 8 glasses a day, but it should be 1.5-2x the amount because of what you sweat off.    A sports drink is a good option as it will help replenish things in the body that you lose in the sweat.

 

I know some of these seem obvious... but easy to forget.  After my 10 mile run, I had stomach cramps and figured out after the fact that it was because I did not drink enough.

 

By the way Nikki... Have fun and do not worry.  You will be fine.... (get the theme yet?  ) 





My race times (2009)

Vince Tantillo/ Jack Barr Memorial Run 5K:  26:37

Waynesboro Firecracker 5K:  26:47

Tom Ausherman Memorial 5 mile Run:  44:50

Great Frederick Fair Race 5K:  26:42

CitiCorp 5K Heart Run  :  25:49   Finished 13th, 2nd in my class! (though, only 43 racers)

2009 Turkey Trot : Hagerstown 5K  25 minutes 27 seconds... another personal best!  Results pending before I know where I placed!

Check out my Blog :  My journey to the Ultra Marathon....

nikkicarr1 Pro 63 posts since
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35. Nov 4, 2009 8:49 AM in response to: Ericd3043
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Thanks EricD and glad I could provide a good laugh!





so I dont know how to add the link but I do blog on here, if you want to know more about me, just go through my profile page

First Race:  Operation Troop Appreciation 2009 5k 29:44 5th in age group

SassafrassaGSO Pro 97 posts since
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36. Nov 4, 2009 2:55 PM in response to: shosho27
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Hello 10Kers!

 

Nikki--You will be fine...

 

Eric--Great information there.  I appreciate your time in posting it for all of us to share.

 

I had such a great run today! Gorgeous weather, low humidity and breezy.  I decided on the route by the lake. Flat course, and I wanted to get it done fairly quickly today.  It was a short one on the schedule, 2 miles, so I really pushed myself to keep up a good pace.  I was shocked when I finished in 20 minutes and 40 seconds.  I ran an average pace of 10:20!! That's a full 24 seconds less per mile than Monday's run! Granted it was only two miles, but still it was a surprise--it felt really good, too.  Eric, you were right!  You do get speedier all on your own!

 

Have my long run of the week on Friday--4 miles--so I know I will be running that much slower.  I haven't run that far in a long while, so it will be interesting to see how it goes.  I hope you all have good runs the rest of this week.  Check in with you over the weekend!!

 

Sara





"The difference between a jogger and a runner is an entry blank." 
-George Sheehan

mango2 Expert 115 posts since
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37. Nov 4, 2009 3:24 PM in response to: SassafrassaGSO
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Hey everyone,

 

Haven't been around here in a while, but I'm back now! I actually finished the HH 10K program last weekend, but I think I am going to go back and repeat a few weeks. I still don't feel comfortable with the 10K distance yet, and I am sick with chest congestion, etc. so I don't know if its a good idea to run. I'm not really sure what I am going to do next as far as a new training plan, but I'm open to suggestions. Looking at the novice HH 1/2 marathon plan, it seems like I could jump in at the start of that one or I could repeat a few weeks of the 10K one. They are pretty similar. For now my goal is to get comfortable with a ~6 mi distance. When I did it this past weekend I completed it without walking, but I didn't feel strong at the end, but rather really worn out and sluggish the whole way though.

 

I am wondering two things -- at what point are you supposed to start hydrating during a run? What about those gels/other supplements? I assume that'd be for longer distances, but I wasn't sure.

 

DTTand Fish, I have never done the Jingle all the Way run...if you asked me to run 6.2 miles at this time last year I would have responded with a "are you kidding me?!" I only just started running this spring/summer. I looked at the website though, and it looks pretty festive and fun. Definitely thinking about giving it a try, but I haven't committed yet. I hope your shins are healing...

 

Eric, your speed and training seem like they are coming along really well. I don't know if I could do a longer run on the treadmill..I just get so bored and want to quit. Running is SO mental! How do you distract yourself?

 

Sassafrassa, congrats on breaking into the 10 min miles!! I know how you feel, as I recently did that myself. Good luck with the 4 miles!

 

nikki, I clicked on your nike plus link...how cool and pretty! I have been lusting after a Garmin for christmas or something, but I don't know if I really deserve such an expensive piece of equipment..I feel like its for marathoners or something haha. Good luck on your 5K! You will be FINE, promise. Eric gave great advice for your first 5K! (Not that I am that experienced, but the 5K I ran was very relaxed...everyone was really friendly, and there were people of all sizes, shapes and abilities there!) You have nothing to worry about except enjoying your first race!

Ericd3043 Pro 84 posts since
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38. Nov 4, 2009 7:39 PM in response to: mango2
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Mango - welcome back. Congrats on finishing the training.  Go with what you are comfortable with.  I know what you are saying about the Garmin.  I am hoping to get the 201 for Christmas.  If you look online (ebay most likely), you will find that a new one will sell for considerably less than that at a retail store.

 

I think you will find that it would help you in your training.  If you upgrade it to the 301 - there is a Heart Rate monitor.  I do not use one, but I could see tht it would be helpful.

 

One other thing, check the Active.com website for information on Nutrition.  There is a link and it will give you some articles written on proper eating as well hydrating, etc.

 

I have heard about something called a "hydrate pack" that is like a fanny pack to carry water.  However, it is bulky and heavy.  From personal experience, I would not worry about it under a 10K.  Just make sure you drink up before and after the runs.  I am not sure how anyone drinks 64 oz of fluid in a day.  I started this morning and got 32oz in during the day and I have another 8 tonight.  That includes my stride run I did after work.

 

Funny thing....(a side note).... I am seriously considering scheduling next year a couple of 5K races, a 10K race, a 10 mile race, a 1/2 marathon , a full marathon and then .... a ultra marathon that is near the house.  The ultra is in November, if I can get in.  With the wife pregnant, it might not happen like I want to though... we shall see.





My race times (2009)

Vince Tantillo/ Jack Barr Memorial Run 5K:  26:37

Waynesboro Firecracker 5K:  26:47

Tom Ausherman Memorial 5 mile Run:  44:50

Great Frederick Fair Race 5K:  26:42

CitiCorp 5K Heart Run  :  25:49   Finished 13th, 2nd in my class! (though, only 43 racers)

2009 Turkey Trot : Hagerstown 5K  25 minutes 27 seconds... another personal best!  Results pending before I know where I placed!

Check out my Blog :  My journey to the Ultra Marathon....

upwardbound Amateur 8 posts since
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39. Nov 4, 2009 8:09 PM in response to: shosho27
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

I would love to go for 10K!!  Any suggestion would be great

LulaB Pro 72 posts since
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40. Nov 4, 2009 8:38 PM in response to: shosho27
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Finished my first 5K this past weekend.  Have been wondering what the next step should be and looking for other posts here that might help me out.   I ran a 12.5 min mile and felt pretty good when I finished over all.   Look forward to hearing what you all have to say and get the support to keep moving.  Have enjoyed the effects this last 3 months it has had on my body and mind since I began to run.

SassafrassaGSO Pro 97 posts since
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41. Nov 9, 2009 8:03 AM in response to: shosho27
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Good Monday Morning!  Haven't been able to post cause the log-in function wasn't working again.  Wish they'd straighten all these technical problems out! Very annoying to not be able to get through.

 

Nikki--How did your race go?  Wasn't it this past weekend?  We can't wait to hear!

 

Mango--Good to hear from you!  I hope that you are feeling better from your chest congestion/cold.  I don't know too much about the gel/food question, but I think with hydration it is usually at about the hour mark.  And Garmins ARE cool. I'm lusting for one, but it's out of my budget at the moment.

 

Eric--An ULTRA??  Dear lord, man!  I'm impressed.  I can't even imagine running a full marathon at this point, much less an Ultra.  That would be quite an accomplishment.

 

UpwardBound--Welcome!  There are many training plans out there--several of us are using Hal Higdon's Novice 10K Training here. There are some other good ones out there depending on your needs, but this one is very manageable and works you to the 10K distance over an 8 week period.  It also includes cross training days and rest days.  I like how it is structured.

 

LulaB--Welcome!  Some people like to move on to greater distances, while others move on to speed work and increasing their pace on the 5K distance.  It kind of depends on your goals longterm.  I'm working towards a half-marathon for next fall, so I'm very slowly increasing my distance and building my base.  Be sure to check back in and let us know how you are doing!

 

Well, I've done two runs since I logged in last.  Friday night, I had 4 miles scheduled, and I ran with my sweetie after work.  It was a lovely evening....low fifty degrees and calm.  We ran downtown and over to UNCG and back around old Greensboro.  It was really nice.  The run was a slower one, but my pace and breathing felt great!  When we finished, we had run 4.8 miles in 54:47...and I could have run further if I'd had to.  The average pace was slower...11:24, but it was a longer run so it all worked out.

 

Today's run was tougher.  I went on a 6 mile hike yesterday in the woods, and while it was not a difficult trail, it just used some different muscles than I'm used to!  My legs were stiff and sore this morning, and then I had a 3 mile run on my log.  So...I schlepped myself over to the running trail and did 3.13 in 34:14 with an average pace of 10:55.  I just didn't have it in me to run any faster or do any sprints today.  At least I got the miles in.

 

Hope everyone is okay and is keeping on with their training.  Have great runs, ya'll...I'm off to get some work done!

 

Sara





"The difference between a jogger and a runner is an entry blank." 
-George Sheehan

mango2 Expert 115 posts since
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42. Nov 9, 2009 9:50 AM in response to: SassafrassaGSO
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Hi everyone,

 

I haven't run in a week! Eek! I have had chest congestion and lots of junk in my lungs and was told not to run to make it worse. I am going to try to do a really short, easy run on the treadmill today though...I'm itching to run and exercise again!

 

EricD, thanks for the suggestion on the nutrition info on active. I am about to go check that out right now. I guess I was just wondering if I was feeling so run down after my 6 mi run because I was dehydrated, etc. Now I realize it may have been bc I was getting sick! By the way, an ultra?! That is an incredible goal...a bit crazy sounding to me...but seriously, more power to you. I can't wait to hear how your running progresses!

 

Welcome to upwardbound and Lula! You might want to check out Hal Higdon's 10K Novice plan. I used it and loved it.

 

Sara, nice runs! Good job on getting the miles...getting the miles in when you don't want to and are tired builds mental toughness. Plus, not even run has to be (or should!) be at your fastest pace.

 

Happy running all

LulaB Pro 72 posts since
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43. Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM in response to: mango2
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone.   I did a couple of 3 mile runs this past week.  Went for a nice walk today and did some yard work yesterday cleaning up all those pesky leaves in the yard.  So, was still out there moving even if it wasn't running every other day.   Checked out the running plan a couple of you have mentioned, it looks like a very doable plan.   Happy that at least I get to log on and say hello.

nikkicarr1 Pro 63 posts since
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44. Nov 9, 2009 3:17 PM in response to: SassafrassaGSO
Re: Completed C25K - Anyone want to try going from 5K to 10K?

Sassafrass thank you for asking - my race was yesterday great weather mid 50s sunny,  I didn't run except for sunday/tuesday last week just because of the craziness of work but still felt really good.  My official time was 29:44 (9:35 pace) 5th in my age group  http://www.smileymiles.com/2009/RES%2009%20OPERATION%20TROOP%20APPRECIATION%20OVERALL.HTM  My goal was to finish under 30 minutes and I did!!!  Nike+ tracked a 8:28 pace/distance as 3.48mi http://nikerunning.nike.com/n/r/en_US/1946840436/1610640971/?sitesrc=fbk_ab_plus but either way I'm happy,.  My sister in law hte triathlete was only 9 people ahead of me.  There was a HUGE hill at the half way point that kicked my butt, I'd trained on hills but none this big.  I am by no means a cry baby but when I saw that finish line I wanted to cry, i did't but I wanted too!

 

I was so excited to come home and post so I was totally frustrated that active was down.

 

My next race it a 5k turkey trot and my daughter wants me to run the 1mi fun run that day also, and then there is a race on my B-day in dec 5 or 10k have not decided which I will do, hoping to be able to do 10k, my BIL asked me to run the pittsburgh 1/2 withhim in May for his 40th bday, so am I crazy? maybe....





so I dont know how to add the link but I do blog on here, if you want to know more about me, just go through my profile page

First Race:  Operation Troop Appreciation 2009 5k 29:44 5th in age group

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