OK, I have done 2 sprint triathlons now and survived them. I didn't win my age group (these 50-55 women kick rear, trust me), but I finished upright and smiling and not at the end of the pack. Both sprints had pool swims of 350 and 250 meters. I had no real issues with the swims, but I am not the world's strongest or fastest swimmer by any means.
Now I'm signing up for a tri in April in my birthplace town of Galveston TX which offers sprint, Oly and 70.3 distances. The swim is an open water swim in a semi protected bayou (which means no actual surf, but you will get wind, rain, current, and some small waves I am sure). I really would like to move up to Oly distance and train for that--but honestly I'm not sure about doing an Oly distance swim as my first open water experience. I know I can do the bike and the run with training--but not sure about the swim part.
I grew up swimming in the ocean and bayous, so salt water doesn't offend me, but back then I wasn't, you know, swimming in a hurry with 300 people around me thrashing away. And between now and then I am probably not going to be able to do any sea swimming, because Dallas has very little oceanfront, although I may try to do at least one lake practice in late March with a rented wetsuit to get used both to the idea and the wetsuit (brrrr).
The sprint swim is .3 miles and the Oly swim is a 1.5 kilo which I think is .9 mile so it's a big difference. Plus the sprint is simply from one dock across to another--no real serious navigation--and the Oly is out to sea with four turns.
Should I just sign up for the sprint and try to improve my times in my age group, and save the Oly for when I a seasoned open water swimmer? Or should I bite the day and go for the big one?
Thanks for any advice. Training starts in two weeks either way!
Terry
Hey Terry, Jason here.
Thats a tough question if you ask me. i was faced with the same issue when i signed up for the US open so thought i would give you my 5c on what i did and what the reasons for it were.
My first tri as you know, because you were there, was the blackland tri which was a 300m pool swim. the US Open sprint option was a 800m open water and the olympic was a 1500m open water option. Both courses were similar just the one being longer. So as i wasn't that experienced and at that point had not swam open water before, i decided to do the sprint distance. i was pretty happy about that on the day as it was cold and rainy and the water was very choppy. I was really tempted to do the olympic as i knew i probably could complete the distance as i had put a lot of hours into training. Open water swims seem a lot longer than they actually are as you fight against currents, chop and other people.
So terry, my advice for you, if you are not comfortable with open water swimming, do the sprint distance and maybe work at kicking some butt, rather than just finishing in the longer distance. Thats what i did and ended up coming 5th in my age group at the US Open. Just remember, the olympic swim, you will be in the water for anything up to an hour. thats pretty scary by itself.
We are pretty much done with open water swims for now but i'm sure we will start up again in the new year and you are welcome to come up and join us as part of the Frisco Triathlon Club.
Look forward to hearing about what you decide.
If you want bragging rights for completing an Olympic before me, then thats ok to and just do the olympic.
Jason Mellet
My Road To 70.3 and recent fatherhood
I was going to start my answer the same as Jason did, by saying that it was a tough question.
I did four open water sprints before finally stepping up to an Olympic distance triathlon this year. In my case it wasn't about being comfortable in the open water, I was OK with that. For me it was about the distance, I wasn't ready or able to swim 1500m in a pool last year let alone 1500m in open water. I'm not a great swimmer and in my Oly I was caught by several of the swimmers from the wave that started after mine... actually the fastest of the swimmers from 2 waves after mine also caught me. Don't be in front of those folks because they will not pause or make any effort to go around you. But I can't wait to do my next Oly come next April... and this time I'll do better.
I think Jason's suggestion and reasoning for doing the sprint first are good ones... but either way let us know what you decide.
The open water swim is quite different from a pool swim.
My first open water swim was for a sprint tri in a lake, and at only 200 yds it blew me away mentally.
The bodies thrashing didn't mess with me as much as the fact of looking down and seeing nothing
but blueish-brown water. Okay, admittedly I didn't get in the water ahead of time and get used to it --
but nevertheless, I've heard plenty of hyperventilation and "I freaked" stories from other first time
open water swimmers.
So -- unless you have the ability/time/opportunity to go down to a local lake/beach and go practice
in some non-pool water, then I wouldn't recommend an Oly open water swim to start. I've done Olympic length now,
and the distance is not hard (assuming you train for it), but it is always a mental change to handle
the fact that there won't be any walls coming up, you need to continually sight for buoys, and you just
have to get used to looking at essentially "nothing" and just keep on swimming, and swimming, and swimming.
If you blow off this advice and go for it --- at least try to get to the race site ahead of time (day before preferably or very early
that morning), and go swim for at least a good 5-10 minutes. Since you grew up swimming in ocean water, this may
be enough.
Hi Terry,
I think you're being modest about your last race! And yes, it's surprising how competitive all the agegroups are!
Good points about the pool vs. open-water differences:
- venue
- distance
- water temp
- weather, wind, waves
- sea life
- # of swimmers around you vs. in a lane
Can you look at last year's race and see how many people were in each event? Is it a mass start, wave start or time-trail swim start (one swimmer every 3 seconds)? It is easy for new and experienced swimmers to freak out in OWS.
You want to be "comfortable and confident" in the water. The race isn't won in the water. You want to get out feeling strong vs. slushy etc.
What are your expectations for the race? You could use it as a test race & still see improvement/positive gains overall. You've gotten great advice from the other responders. Find a way to get in the water. There are many mental games & techniques you can use in training and on race day to help you handle OWS issues.
Keep us updated! April isn't that far away!
:-) Sara
I think that as long as you get a few open water swims in before your race it does not matter what distance you do. open water swimming is very different and you need to be ok with swimming and not being able to stand up and see. Usually you can start towards the back and stay on the outside if you are not comfortable in the swim.
Good Luck!
OK, you guys have convinced me to stick with the sprint distance in my first OWS. It's a wave start, but I agree it's smarter to get that experience under me in a shorter distance than freak out halfway through a mile swim. Plus, my sister in law is going to do it with me and it's her first tri, so I want to do the sprint distance with her rather than be in another distance group.
I knew I had the time to train for an Oly and I think I will still train for that distance, but then do the sprint--and if I'm lucky I will increase my speed and place higher in my age group, although I seem to be built more for distance than speed (my fast twitches are somewhere in storage apparently). I may find an Oly six to eight weeks later and use this April sprint as my warm up race for it.
Thanks for the advice!
Terry
Next Race: Dallas 8 mile Turkey Trot
You took the words out of my mouth halfway through your reply --- "doing the sprint as prep for a later Olympic".
Many Olympic training plans have one doing a sprint race 4 to 8 weeks before the Olympic anyway.
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