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Tri 2 Do It Pro 48 posts since
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15. Nov 4, 2009 9:54 AM in response to: Elite5981
Re: Training on treadmill vs road?

I think we all agree on two things: 1) running outside is fun, and 2) running on a dreadmill is not.

 

So if weather, darkness or whatever prevents you from running outside and you must do your run, then you pretty much need to set your mind on getting it done on a treadmill.  Just accept the facts that it's going to be dull, you're going to sweat more and you're probably not going to go as fast as you do outside.  The goal is to do your run, and if achieving your goal means having to do it on a treadmill then that's OK.

TyKy Amateur 31 posts since
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16. Nov 4, 2009 10:55 AM in response to: Tri 2 Do It
Re: Training on treadmill vs road?

I couldn't agree more with Tri 2 Do It.  Most runners like running outside, but if its a choice of treadmill or not at all.  Well, treadmill running tends to win.

 

I have the same problem you do.  I'd rather run outside for 1 1/2 hours than do a 20 min run on the treadmill.  Not so much because I get board, but I really struggle.  Mostly I have a hard time breathing.  I can never find my "grouve" on the treadmill.  I am huffing and puffing like I have never ran a day in my life type of breathing.  Also my lower legs tend to be a lot more sore.  When I was running to loose weight I would always look at the calorie display to keep me going and think the no pain no gain attitude.  Now I have lost the weight, I adjust the speed up and down so its more of a fartlick workout.  As for the diffucalt breathing inside I still struggle with this, but have come to think of it as an "element" that would be faced outside.  Like a light brease or something else that would make somebody winded.

dwm082 Community Moderator 1,172 posts since
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17. Nov 4, 2009 1:30 PM in response to: Elite5981
Re: Training on treadmill vs road?

@Elite5981: My theory is that treadmill workouts can be more difficult because you're forced to run a constant speed. When I review my Garmin logs after an outdoor run, I notice that my pace varies slightly throughout my run. Not having the ability to make those micro-adjustments can force you to run faster than you want to at some moments, and slower than you want to at others. As a result, I find the unrelenting need to run at a single speed on a treadmill to be very exhausting. (That and I tend to overheat -- a lot!)

 

Don





"Don't fear moving slowly forward ... fear standing still" - Kathleen Harris

"Last is just the slowest winner." - C. Hunter Boyd

2009 Races
May 17 - Cleveland Marathon (3:58:39)
May 24 - Buffalo Marathon (4:12:19)
June 27 - UltimateXC Quebec Edition "Half Marathon" (~19.26 miles: 6:20:30)
November 22 - Philadelphia Half Marathon (1:53:30)

November 26 - YMCA Turkey Trot 8k

runninfeets Amateur 15 posts since
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18. Nov 5, 2009 9:11 AM in response to: tatiper
Re: Training on treadmill vs road?

I am so glad I found this thread.....I just ran on my new "used" treadmill last night for the first time and I think honestly I'd have rather been pecked by chickens than do it again....I hated it......I've been running outside for a year and a half now, but last winter I used an elliptical and did some cross training, but wasn't happy with the endurance level I lost over the winter, so I thought getting a treadmill this year would solve those problems......I'm not too averse to the cold and it's been pretty comfortable here lately (40-50 which is preferred for me) but with the time change it's dark here at 4:30 and I usually run after work...I tried running in the dark and it creeped me out a little.....I can run 5k in 28-29 min., 10k in 58-59 min. but it took me half an hour to go 2 miles on the treadmill last night and I felt like I'd never run a step in my life!!!  My treadmill without using the incline naturally inclines at 1.5 and I do need to do more hill work and incline it more, but seriously what's wrong with me?  I've been trying all last night and this morning to figure out how I can tweak my schedule to run outside again!!  HELP

susan-n-the black dog Legend 234 posts since
Jun 11, 2009
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19. Nov 5, 2009 11:42 AM in response to: tatiper
Re: Training on treadmill vs road?

I, personally, HATE, HATE, HATE the treadmill.  I have always trained outdoors.  I have hundreds of miles outdoors on different types of surfaces including trail races.  I only joined the gym and started using the treadmill because it is no longer safe to train outdoors in the dark without my dog and she can't handle my distance or speed.  With that said this is what I have found:

 

Cons:

 

I am slower on the treadmill than outside.  I do not know why.

I feel less stable on the soft bouncing surface of the treadmill and find I feel like I am going to fall off.

Dang, it is hot in the gym and I sweat much more!

I find the guy or gal pounding on the treadmill beside me very distracting.

 

Pros:

 

I can use the treadmill regardless of the weather and time of day.

I can vary my speed to vary my workout.

I can vary my incline which I cannot do outside.

Hey, I can watch TV while I workout.  LOL

 

Bottom line...I am faster and cover more distance outside in the wind and weather and sunshine.  I like it better.  But the treadmill is a necessary evil for safety reasons.  I cannot wait till spring!





Susan in CA
TWO 10k trail races down; many more to go
Walked the Golden Gate Bridge - too cool!

10 miles of the Monterey Big Sur Internationl Half Marathon...so much fun!

Unless you faint, puke or die...keep walking - Jillian Michaels

HeatherRS Amateur 21 posts since
Dec 18, 2008
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20. Nov 6, 2009 2:09 PM in response to: tatiper
Re: Training on treadmill vs road?

I too run faster on the road than I do on a treadmill.  Like someone else had mentioned, I get distracted by others easily when I'm trying to run in the gym.  Not so much by the huffing and puffing of others, but by all the people who are chatting on their phone or with buddies instead of working out.  Maybe I'm just not meant to be around others while trying to workout.  When I'm on the trails all I hear/feel is my breathing and rhythm and it just improves my running.

rankenory Rookie 2 posts since
Jul 31, 2009
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21. Nov 6, 2009 3:32 PM in response to: tatiper
Re: Training on treadmill vs road?

I'm really suprised that so many people responding to this post say they run faster outside.  I run faster, and hold my speed longer on the treadmill when I leave it on zero incline.  However, because it is so much easier for me to run on the treadmill at zero incline than to run outdoors, training with zero incline has not adequately prepared me for running road races on hills.  I would have great treadmill runs and then when I'm running a 5K or 10K on the road I would die on the hills, ending up walking part of the race.

 

I've recently begun to agressively use the treadmill incline function, and I can't run nearly as fast on the treadmill when doing this.  I haven't run a road race since changing to this training technique, so I don't yet know if it will improve my road race times.  I may need to rest more between training runs to give my muscles time to recover and build up, but I'm hoping this will make the difference eventually.

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