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40 Replies Last post: Sep 1, 2007 6:28 AM by tuscaloosarunner   1 2 3 Previous Next
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Dec 20, 2007 10:25 PM

Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20

The clouds have finally parted here - wow did we get a ton of rain last week! I hope you are all drying out and having some cooler weather!!

Our races are right around the corner - looks like taper time already for a few people!

I also hope all of you folks with injuries / set backs are improving.

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Grandmas - 6/16
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Foot Traffic Flat - 7/4
bhearn - 3:12
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San Francisco - 7/29
Dr. Wu - 3:35

Lehigh River Relay - 9/9
loopy - 2:59:59

Adirondack - 9/16
Dr. Wu - 3:35

Omaha - 9/23
Travis Hubbard - 2:45-2:50
tonya921 - 3:39:59

Akron 9/29
mrinertia - 3:59:59

Toronto Waterfront - 9/30
DanMoriarity - 2:59:59

St. George - 10/06
Johnny J - 2:59:59

Chicago - 10/07
AndyHass - 2:28:38
jakey - 3:15
JSM - 2:22
jtv - 3:15
sack77 - 3:59:59
tramirez - 2:59:59
92heelgrad - 3:20

Lakefront - 10/7
RunForFun - 2:44

Mohawk Hudson Marathon - 10/7
Dr. Wu - 3:24:59

Portland (OR) - 10/7
Zoomharp 3:59
bhearn - 3:10

Sacramento - 10/7
GoDawgGo - 2:59:59

Steamtown - 10/7
runawayjesse - 3:25
willamona - 3:45
rootsrunner - 3:03-3:08

Twin Cities - 10/7
joplus - 3:09:59
runninlaw - 3:20-3:25
doctster - 3:15:59
Fast Like the Wind - training run
stepstep - 3:00

Baystate - 10/14
joev9 - 3:14:59
Gazelle2007 - 3:10:00

Long Beach, CA - 10/14
DAVIDR262 -3:20
arc918 -3:20

Newport - 10/20
wheaton - 3:10?
Penikese - 3:10

Columbus - 10/21
thereshegoes - 3:09:59
Mailbox Head - 3:09:59
eyates73 - 3:10

Eurasia - 10/28
oguzkesimli - 3:05

Cape Cod 10/28
maratacious - 2:50

Grand Rapids - 10/28
corland14 - 3:40-3:45

Marine Corps - 10/28
Fast Like the Wind - 3:30
Shera2316 - 3:59:59

Dublin - 10/29
deco - 3:00
uli f - 2:36

Elyria - 11/4
cowardlylion - 3:15:59

Manchester marathon - 11/4
roadrunner262 - 2:30 - 2:40

New York - 11/4
Warrior1971 - 2:27:59
teek - no goal stated

Richmond - 11/10
HOSS1961 - 3:50:00
goldpoint - no goal stated

Philly - 11/18
dzillas - 3:15
Schnakees - 2:55

Memphis - 12/1
spkoest - 3:08:00

St. Jude - 12/01
Hannibal Granite - 2:48

California International 12/2
afletche - no goal yet - scrapped until London in spring

Tuscon - 12/2
Downhill Racer - 3:10-3:17

Huntsville - 12/8
tuscaloosarunner - TBD - scrapped due to injury.

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2. Aug 26, 2007 11:25 AM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
Ditto on the best wishes for everyone dealing with injuries, crazy schedules, and the heat.

M: 4 m easy (8:5)
T: 8 m (8:11)
W: 5 m easy (8:27)
Th: 5 m easy w striders (8:27)
F: Off
Sa: 5k in 20:30 and 3 m warm-up/cool-down
Su: 18.6 m (9:05)

Total: 46.7

I'm back up to my peak mileage from my last cycle after bumping it up 16 miles from last week! I don't fully periodize, but I'm trying to focus mainly on easy miles right now as I build up. I also managed a one-minute PR in the 5k, although I suffered for it a bit on today's long run.
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3. Aug 26, 2007 12:18 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
yes indeed, it is 6 weeks from Twin Cities, and I have already started checking weatherunderground.com to make sure it's cooler there than here.

M: AM 7mi (8:56), PM 4mi (8:31)
T: AM 9mi incl 5xhalf-mile, short rests, avg 3:06
W: AM 11mi (9:07), PM 2.5mi untimed at discombobulated xc practice
R: AM 11mi (7:47) incl progression miles 2-6, hard 10-11. PM 5mi (8:43)
F: AM 8.5mi (9:07), PM 6.5mi (8:47)
Sa: 7.5mi (9:01)
Su: 20mi (7:51)

total: 92 miles
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4. Aug 26, 2007 1:22 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
I had to miss a couple of runs this week, but I'm going to pretend I meant to and call it a "cut back" week-- lol! Things are going well, but I cannot believe how fast the summer is passing. Hurray for your 70+ miles, runinlaw! Very inspiring.

Tues 9.74 moderate
Weds 5.11 fartlek
Fri 9.83 moderate
Sun 22.1
Total - 46.78
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5. Aug 26, 2007 1:36 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
74.5 for me last week. My cat got sick so I missed a couple of short runs on my two a days and my long run was replaced with a short recovery run because of a 5k. (I ran the 5k for the T-shirt.) But I will take this type of mileage for an August. Thank goodness the race in in October.

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6. Aug 26, 2007 2:00 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
Well, my first week of medical school I managed to get a pretty good week of training in. There isn't a whole lot I need to study right now because most of it is review, but I'm spending a lot of time studying anyway just to get myself back in the habit.

M - 8M
T - 6.5 inc 5x1k @ 3:40min/k
W - 13.5M
T - 6.5 inc 3x(400,1M) miles at 5:55 and 400's at 1:19 (pretty fresh 400s, fairly difficult miles)
F - 7M
S - 19M
S - 8M

68.5

My 19 mile run was not very good. It got hot here again and I only had 1 water stop on my route. I weighed myself when I got back and had lost 8-9lb of water on the run. No wonder I felt so bad. If the weather continues like this, I will start dropping off water bottles or do shortish loops with a water fountain. Man did that gatorade back at home taste good.
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7. Aug 26, 2007 3:05 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
10/7 weekend is the biggest marathon weekend in USA - Lots of runners - Lots of races - Cool Runners are no different. 6 weeks to go after today for 19 or 20 of us. Time to start taking all that work over the hot summer and molding it into a training peak. This was my last week of high mileage - now speed is #1 and mileage is #2 priority.

I had a screwed up training week - Little sleep - Poor hydration and I ran at odd times for me.

Tuesday 23miler was completed after 11:30pm and I am usually in bed by 8:30

Sunday (today) was a nice 19 miler with some good marathon miles, a little T-pace and a nice run to the barn finish.

Rest of week was mostly garbage - felt bad - ran poorly.

97 Miles in the main run of the day, 29 miles in other runs - unless I do a 4 recovery this PM - 126 or 130 total.

Good running to all -
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8. Dec 20, 2007 10:25 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
The weather shifted late in the week from cool and dry to hot and humid. I was encouraged by my mid- week run at HM pace, while putting in my first 20- miler and feel alright... considering it was 76 with 86% humidity at the start of my long run. Oh ya...first time over 50 miles!

M- Rest
T- 5 Miles @ 6:30/mi (Tempo)
W- 11.25 Miles @ 8:15/mi (Easy)
T- Rest
F- 10.75 Miles (5.00 @ 8:30/mi and 5.75 @ 6:45/mi)
S- 5.25 Miles @ 8:15/mi (Easy/Warm- Up)
S- 20.75 Miles @ 8:30/mi (Hot & Humid)

Total: 53 miles

Good job on posting 70 runinlaw and good luck everbody this week!



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9. Aug 26, 2007 6:06 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
Congrats on the mileage pr, runninlaw!

My week started off pretty good and it had a lot to do with the rain that brought nice cool weather into town. But since it's August in the midwest it only lasted until Wednesday. By then the temps were up in the 90's and the humidity was insane. It was so gross!

Su--I did this week's long run on Saturday--19 miles (7:44) including 3 mile push in 6:58, 6:58, 6:53 and then Saturday's 9 miler on Sunday night on the roads (8:08)

Mo--9 (8:13) on the roads since it was so soggy out.

Tu--AM 4, PM 10 including 2 mi w/u and 6 x 1000 @ 3:57 on the roads instead of the track. USed the garmin and all but #1 were on pace. #1 was 1 second slow. Then I did 6 x "100" meters on a stretch of bike path followed by a 2 mile c/d. Good workout and I felt strong and controlled throughout.

We--9 (8:26) on the trails. Super nasty and muggy and just plain gross!

Th--13 including 4 mile w/u on HOT city streets then 7 mile long tempo. It was very humid, windy and 94 degrees when we started! I was supposed to run 7:01, but did 7:01, 7:00, 7:04, 7:06, 7:05, 7:05, 7:00. Then I had to do a 2 mile c/d including 8 x 100 strides. I was WRECKED by the end of this workout. My abdomen was cramping. I think I was dehydrated. One word: YUCK!

Fr--5 slow. It was 90 degrees and sunny. Still gross.

Sa--hilly 9 (8:33) cooler but still muggy. I officially hate the humidity!

Actual 7 day total 68, real total 78

Here's hoping for better weather this week!! Good ones everybody!
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10. Aug 26, 2007 7:23 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
Sun: 16 total; with 10 mile race (1:03:56, 6:24 pace)
M: 4 E
T: 8 E
W: 3 E
T: 6.5 E (trails)
F: 3.5 E
S: 21 easy on hills

62 miles

A scheduled recovery week with no speed session. A good thing, since the tune-up race left me with some lingering fatigue. One final comment regarding the 10M race -- my T-pace sessions of the last couple weeks were run at 6:30-6:35 pace. In the race, I was able to hold 6:30-ish, steadily increasing the pace in the second half. Last three miles averaged 6:08 pace.

Makes me wonder if I am running my T-pace a bit slow.

Yesterday's long run was only supposed to be 18, but got lost on the trails, and ran 3 extra miles depleted for an extra 25-30 minutes. Having to suck it up on empty = good mental training?

Good weeks, all.
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11. Aug 26, 2007 8:49 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
I'mk glad to report my health is improving and I'm slowly getting back on track. My asthma is better but allergies are off the hook. Heart rates sky rocket just getting out of bed in the AM. Things may start looking good for me as I may be able to pull o few months off of work. 70 hour weeks of physical labor, 1- 7 yr old, 1- 6 month old, marathon training plus medical problems and doing it all basicly by myself is all starting to take it's toll on me mentally. So I don't feel guilty when the boss man offered me a lay off.

M-weights
T-6.01(9:35)
W-8:86(9:34)
Th-Off in bed all day
F-9.4(9:32)
S-5(9:10)- feeling halfway human
SU-17 miles in 2:27(8:40)-feeling good

Since I was off for so many days the plan was to run by feel all week. Todays long run plan was to go out for 2.5 hours all by feel. Ya know those runs where you feel like your on top of the world....ya I had one of those today. My garmin beeped 17 miles at 2:27 as I was passing my car(the starting point). Instead of adding 3 mins of jogging in circles I just bagged it.

Good Training all
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12. Aug 26, 2007 9:00 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
Roots - Yes on both questions

T= 6:21 ish for you
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13. Aug 26, 2007 9:21 PM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
Hi all. Just two weeks to go!

My week:
M: 50 mins trails
T: 50 mins trails
W: 5 mi - 3 @ 6:05 + 1mi wmup, 1mi cldwn
T: 1 hr trails
F: OFF
S: 12mi - 10 @ 6:51 + 1mi wmup, 1mi cldwn
S: OFF

Went from cool and wet early in the week to very hot and humid this weekend. Saturday's MP run was supposed to be a confidence booster, but instead it humbled me. The heat and humidity were killing me and I fell a good 10 seconds off pace in miles 8 and 9 - only managed to salvage it with a 6:30 10th mile.

So now I am paranoid about the race day weather. I am just hoping I will get lucky and it will go back to the cool stuff...
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14. Aug 27, 2007 1:27 AM in response to: runninlaw
Re: Fall Marathon Trainers Thread - Week of August 20
Terrible week. Missed a lot of runs with a rough work schedule and the rapid ramp of x 3 weeks doubling my mileage (30's to 60's) finally caught up to me.

Got three good work-outs in:

1- a hard tempo run of 9.5 miles total and 40 min. at tempo pace (6:20's) in the heat.
2- 13.5 miler with 1 mile on, .75 off. Avg. on pace 6:12 on gravel/dirt path. Total 8.5 miles of harder/tempo type running.
3- 9.74 miles solid aerobic run (not easy, not hard)
4- Skipped long run-- tomorrow (had to work the weekend, off tomorrow)

Total 38.1 miles (yikes!)


Well, that was my one cutback week for the cycle. I better hit it hard and have an abbreviated taper as I'm running out of time. But I feel healthy and am moving forward.

I got bit by a dog this week. Running at tempo pace along river path, came towards a group of walkers and what I think is an Australian Sheep Dog came running towards me. I assumed he would run alongside, but he just jumped right at me and nipped me in the left hip. It hurt and I briefly (I was doing a tempo run and didn't want to stop-- you know how that goes) yelled, "you're dog just bit me, you need to get control of it" at the group as I ran by. When it originally bit me I wheeled around and yelled get away from me you beast (I had headphones on). I thought it didn't break the skin as I saw no tear in my shorts, but when I got home there were a couple bite marks that led to large scrapes since I was running when it tried to latch on. But the cloth isn't broken so I'm assuming I'll escape getting rabies (ha!)


Joplus-- you're totally sandbagging with that time goal. Work a little on your top end speed with some hard sprints and short hill sprints and you'll crush 3:09

Runninlaw-- nice on the 70+ (I assume that 5x600 on Tues. was 5 x 1200 in those times, or you REALLY need a recovery week).

Downhill racer-- a 1 min. PR in the 5k!!!! nice.

wheaton-- get your marathon racing in the next two years before you start clinical rotations because you'll be done for a year, have another shot 4th year, then kiss goodbye the next 5-7 years depending on what you go into, unless of course you're single, unattached, and you can run and work, and nothing else. good luck with med school!