quote:<HR>Originally posted by runninlaw:
[b] Excellent! HAHA. I can't tell you how many times I have said I was going to work on the 5K and 10K and then got sucked into another marathon training schedule. One of these days I will actually get my 5K and 10K times where they should be.

As far as what's next for this thread . . . .

Obviously we are getting closer to the end of fall. IF YOU ARE PLANNING A SPRING RACE, GO AHEAD AND GIVE ME YOUR GOALS. We may as well merge into spring training too as many of the same people will be doing it. Easier than trying to manage 2 separate threads. Plus I hate to see it die like the spring trainers thread did after Boston. There are still several people with upcoming races.

Excellent pic of roots. I saw that one too. He looked smiley and strong like that every time I saw him!! Congrats again![/B]<HR>

Great races Runninlaw and Roots and Gregw...and joplus as well.


Runninlaw...I'm up for the spring thread. (does a February race count? ) The Twin Cities furnace marathon destroyed my BQ shot, but it keeps me busy and motivated over the fall and winter months.

MYRTLE BEACH MARATHON
February 16, 2008

Goal: 3:15

corland - great job on the big PR.

rootsrunner - glad it worked out for you. Where's that RR?

gregw - I'm glad you beat the cow. And also that you thought better of swearing off marathons.

spkoest, joplus - very nice HMs!

Brian McM - Good luck at NY. A sub-18 Batman, pretty cool.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by rootsrunner:
bhearn- you'll earn more stars when you do two in one weekend! <HR>

quote:<HR>Originally posted by runninlaw:
Bhearn - you are now offically dubbed the "BQ Maniac" - CONGRATULATIONS!! Incredible!<HR>

quote:<HR>Originally posted by joplus:
bhearn: you are insane.<HR>

quote:<HR>Originally posted by loopy:
Bhearn - speaking of impressive, great maniac streak you've got going!<HR>

Well first of all, I don't think two in one weekend is going to happen any time soon. joplus - maybe I'm insane, but I'm not the one running 70-90 mpw! And loopy, yeah, it's a nice maniac streak... but... it still puts me at a lowly one star!

I have to say, I really feel like I've entered a new phase of running. (Recap: Portland Marathon, 10/7, 3:08:50, 3 1/2-minute PR. 10K (long!), 10/14, 40:18. Breakers Marathon, 10/20, 3:19:10. Cape Cod Marathon, 10/28, 3:19:06.)

I'd done marathons two weeks apart before (once), but I wasn't sure what to expect trying them one week apart. Not only do I now have confidence that I can turn around marathons quickly, I can really tell (or imagine, anyway) that I am recovering faster. Last week was not bad; today -- I don't even feel like I ran at all yesterday, let alone ran 26 miles. I've never felt like this the day after a marathon before. Probably I'm kidding myself, but I honestly feel like I could have run another today. Is this what it feels like to become a Maniac?

Still, it's clear that if improving performance at every (or any) distance is the goal, running lots of marathons in quick succession is not really compatible with that goal. They're two different running objectives. From one point of view, running lots of marathons at an easy pace is like doing a long run that's a bit longer than normal every weekend, but with a huge party-and-camaraderie atmosphere attached, plus an excuse for touring a new destination. You get a lot more marathon-experience bang for your training buck. But then, so much for any quality workouts the next week. And there's something a bit dissatisfying about racing below your potential, like you're not really taking the race seriously. Shooting for a BQ each time was one way of alleviating that problem for me. I guess I'm still sorting out how I feel about this. If I'm really training myself to recover quickly after long runs, that's worth something -- right? Or maybe I'm way overanalyzing one brief streak.

This time, I think I struck a nice balance. I trained hard for Portland, then rode the wave a few weeks more.

I'm curious -- those of you who ran again this weekend after heat-impacted marathons three weeks ago, how is your recovery going, relative to past experience?



http://This message has been edited by bhearn (edited Oct-29-2007).

Cool, I have been following this thread for weeks. I have enjoyed reading about everyones training and race results. Thanks for adding the Winter and Spring races.

I am also running Myrtle Beach 2/16 Goal sub 3:20

I am using Daniels' Plan A with a max of 75 miles. My HR max is 185.

Week 2 Plan 60 miles, Actual 60.5 miles.

Sun Q1 (20 mins Easy, 20 Tempo, 20 Easy) 10 miles Avg HR 145 Avg pace 8:00 including 3 miles at tempo with a avg HR of 164 and a avg pace of 6:58.

Mon 10.2 8:27 140
Tues 7.7 8:48 136
Weds 8.5 8:36 136

Thur Q2 ((20 mins Easy, 6 x (1K Hard, 3 mins E), 20 Easy)) 9.8 miles 7:57 155 including 1Ks 6:27 pace 164 avg hr, 6:29 169, 6:25 172, 6:27 174, 6:26 175, 6:27 174.

Fri 6.4 8:36 141
Sat 7.9 8:38 136

I was very happy with my pacing. I am not sure of my current VDOT and went by feel. I think I am in 49-50 VDOT shape now. I am running a 10K in another week to find out for sure.


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Hi all,
Congrats to all fellow runners who ran marathons last weekend.
Oguzkesimli, I'm sorry to hear of your injury, but good to see that you came through and completed yet another Eurasia marathon. That's an impressive record in itself.
I completed my 3rd Dublin marathon last weekend. I beat my target, running a 2.58, and had a 2minute negative split, which is rare for me. I followed a 12-week Pfitz 55mile plan (actually more like a Pfitz60), but missed running for 2 weeks at beginning of September (IT band), and 2 weeks preceding marathon (calf muscle), so more than happy with the result, all things considered. I had a strong base, from Spring marathon training, followed by 2 months rest (no running) over the summer, which in hindsight may have contributed to the injuries. It's too early to say, but I may focus on shorter distances next Spring, and delay next marathon until Fall 08, but will see how I feel after a few weeks.
Good luck to all those on this thread with upcoming races, and thanks for support and solidarity over the past few months. Cheers!