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May 27, 2010 11:05 AM

Metal Bats vs. Wooden Bats

Tonight on Kidz "n" Sports, I will be discussing the issue of metal bats vs. wooden bats.  CA is proposing a 2 year moratorium on aluminum bats in youth and high school baseball. 

 

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  • Lou_B Community Moderator 1,319 posts since
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    1. May 27, 2010 11:09 AM (in response to Kidz n Sports)
    Re: Metal Bats vs. Wooden Bats

    +CA is proposing a 2 year moratorium on aluminum bats in youth and high school baseball. +

    Is there a "Bill Number" or anything else you can supply for people to look at?

     

    Any information would be appreciated.

     

    I'll try to listen in tonight.

  • TG. Legend 954 posts since
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    3. May 27, 2010 11:43 AM (in response to Lou_B)
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    While I'm not a fan of the government legislating high school baseball, due to the number of high schools playing baseball in CA this is an opportunity to get a reasonable sampling size on the dangers of pitchers facing hitters with wood bats. I wish the CIF had come up with the idea rather than the state legislature. What happens if more pitchers get drilled with wood?

  • Lou_B Community Moderator 1,319 posts since
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    4. May 27, 2010 12:10 PM (in response to Kidz n Sports)
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    I'll try to get more details

    No need, did a simple search and got plenty of "hits" !

     

    There's a lot of information on it out there.

  • Chalkline Legend 543 posts since
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    5. May 27, 2010 12:50 PM (in response to Kidz n Sports)
    Re: Metal Bats vs. Wooden Bats

     

    THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

     

       SECTION 1.    This act shall be known, and may be

    cited, as "the High School Baseball Safety Act of 2010.

       SEC. 2.    The Legislature finds and declares all of

    the following: 

       (a) On March 11, 2010, 16-year-old Gunnar Sandberg, a pitcher for

    Marin Catholic High School in Marin County, was struck in the head by

    a line-drive hit from a metal bat, and suffered severe head injuries

    that required emergency brain surgery. 

       (b) The recent tragedy involving Gunnar Sandberg is not an

    isolated incident. In recent years, there have been numerous

    incidents of serious injury and even death involving baseball

    pitchers who were struck in the head by balls hit with metal bats.

     

       (c) Historically, and continuing to the present day at the

    professional level, baseball has been played with wooden bats.

    Beginning in approximately the 1970s, aluminum bats began to appear

    as a popular alternative to wood bats, and in recent years nonwooden

    bats have become commonplace at these levels of competition. Advances

    in baseball bat design, including the materials and technology used,

    have resulted in bats that far outperform traditional wood bats.

     

       (d) There is substantial evidence that baseballs struck with these

    advanced nonwooden bats travel at faster velocities, leaving

    pitchers less time to respond to balls that are hit at them and

    increasing the likelihood of serious injury. In 2009, the NCAA

    enacted a moratorium on the use of composite barreled bats until

    2011. According to the National Collegiate Athletic Association

    (NCAA), this moratorium is necessary to protect the integrity of the

    game and to enhance the safety of the studentathletes. 

       (e) In California and throughout the country, there are growing

    concerns that these advanced nonwooden bats present an unacceptable

    safety risk to pitchers. These concerns are especially acute at the

    high school level. Many members of the baseball community, as well as

    independent experts, have called for a ban on nonwooden bats. Some

    also suggest that protective headgear for pitchers should be

    required. 

       (f) In response to the Sandberg tragedy, the Marin County Athletic

    League voted on March 25, 2010, to suspend the use of nonwooden bats

    for the rest of the 2010 baseball season, and called on other high

    school athletic officials to do the same. 

       (g) A statewide moratorium on the use of nonwooden bats in high

    school baseball for three years is an appropriate precautionary

    measure. The sport of baseball will not be harmed or compromised by

    the use of traditional wood bats during this period. It is the intent

    of the Legislature that, during this three-year moratorium, sports

    officials and members of the baseball community should actively

    consider and evaluate strategies to ensure player safety, including,

    but not limited to, the materials and performance standards for

    baseball bats and the possibility of protective headgear. 

       (h) The Legislature notes that nonwooden bats are prohibited at

    the major and minor league levels, and baseball is a game of

    traditions, which suggests that consideration should be given to

    whether the use of nonwooden bats is consistent with the traditions

    and highest standards of the game.

       SEC. 3.    Section 35179.4 is added to the 

    Education Code   , to read: 

       35179.4.  (a) A nonwood baseball bat shall not be used at a

    private or public high school competitive baseball game or practice

    or during a physical education class or activity conducted at a

    private or public high school.

       (b) This section shall become inoperative on July 1, 2014, and, as

    of January 1, 2015, is repealed, unless a later enacted statute,

    that becomes operative on or before January 1, 2015, deletes or

    extends the dates on which it becomes inoperative and is repealed.

     

     

     

  • Chalkline Legend 543 posts since
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    6. May 27, 2010 1:10 PM (in response to Lou_B)
    Re: Metal Bats vs. Wooden Bats

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    "What happens if more pitchers get drilled with wood?"

     

    Join the crowd? did i win?

     

    Im with you on the issue, wishing CIF coming up with the idea.

     

  • Kyle_ Legend 556 posts since
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    9. May 27, 2010 3:29 PM (in response to Chalkline)
    Re: Metal Bats vs. Wooden Bats

     

    +

    What about the ball?

    +

     

    Exactly. It would be FAR easier to "dumb down" the ball to make BESR(etc) bats perform like wood. Plus, it keeps the bat makers happy, the tree hugger happy, and the ball makers really happy. Just change the stiches to blue, so you know you've got the right ball. No big deal.

     

    Jeez, golf dumbed down their balls years ago.

     

  • TG. Legend 954 posts since
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    12. May 28, 2010 11:09 PM (in response to Kidz n Sports)
    Re: Metal Bats vs. Wooden Bats

    About six years ago ASA softened the core of the softballs used for girls softball. The weight was the same. You could hear the difference. My daughter said she could feel the difference on a hard line drive.

  • A_BB_Fan Rookie 4 posts since
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    13. Jun 2, 2010 5:07 PM (in response to Kidz n Sports)
    Re: Metal Bats vs. Wooden Bats

    Just to make things clear, California's proposed ban is on all non-wood bats.  The bill -- in its current form -- would end on January 1, 2012 when the new NFHS rules mandating BBCOR certified bats go into effect nationwide.  (The NCAA will require BBCOR bats for the 2011 season.)  So, regardless of what happens in California for the 2011 season, high school players will have to toss their BESR bats into the trash prior to the 2012 season. 

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