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Beer and Cupcakes
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195. Aug 18, 2010 9:27 PM (in response to Beer and Cupcakes)
Re: DoppelLaufers Good Natured Taunting and Race Reports Thread

PS: Hello ThingamaBob, welcome back to running and welcome to our nutty adventures here. Looking forward to racing against you!!

Cheers,

Virtual Racing Antagonist. I run for beer and cupcakes.

1 Mile PR 6:44

5K PR 22:21

10K PR 48:30

Half Marathon PR 1:48:43

Marathon PR - 4:09:10

i before e except after c, weird?

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196. Aug 19, 2010 7:27 AM (in response to Beer and Cupcakes)
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Welcome ThingaBobby! You just don't know what you got yourself into.

Man did this thread take off.thats what I get for going running with the Clark County Running Club.

I went running last night with them and I was beat after, and even more so this morning. So much for working out twice a day for two days. Yesterdays crosstraining in the morning, and 5K last night ( I am dead to the world this morn.

So ehem! I started at the back of the pack and hardly passed anyone. The fastest runners came in at 14 min oO I really thought I was running a 32 the way I felt and the way those guys were moving passing me. In the end, ran a 9:05/9:05/8:55 can you believe that??? 28 minutes! wow. BTW- 28 minutes with a 6min handicap- I woulda beat you two at 22 min exactly! Just saying.

PS I am ok with the same thread.

Maryalicia

Stroller Racer Extraordinaire!

I know you don't like me racing with my stroller, but I will do my best to respect you and the race!

AKA -Jim's Virtual Racing Antagonist Assiatant!

FEAR THE STROLLER! (Just saying)

Next -

Columbia Gorge Half Marathon, Hood River, OR, October 24th, 2010

ORCC Autumn Leaves 10K Run, Champoeg Park (Newberg, OR), 30 Oct 2010

Some Turkey Trot Race (Can't decide between Zoo or Sherwood)

Hot Butterred Run 12K Run, 27 Novermber 2010

Complete:

ARC in Motion 5K walk/run, Vancouver, WA (35:25 with a stroller)

Spark your Heart 5K Run, Bend, OR 4 July 2010 (31:08 with a stroller)

A Servant Festival Race 10K - Run for the Homeless, Vancouver, WA 7 August 2010 (60:11 with a stroller)

Skirtchaser 5K, Vancouver, WA 7 August 2010 (30:01 with a stroller)

Clark County Running Club, 5K Training Run (28:00 with a stroller)

Oregon Wine Country Half Marathon, Carlton, OR, 5 September 2010 (Chip Finish 02:01:10.0)

Round UP on the Bluff 5K Run and Fun Walk, University of Portland, OR 18 September 2010 (No Chip- But timers have me at 22:50)

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197. Aug 19, 2010 9:25 AM (in response to Beer and Cupcakes)
Re: DoppelLaufers Good Natured Taunting and Race Reports Thread

How’s this?

Doppel Games September Invitational Race for Virtually Everyone

This is a handicapped virtual 5k race. Runners of all levels are welcome and because of the handicapping have an equal chance at winning, BUT you are almost certain to have to PR in order to win.

Here’s how it works:

1.         Enter a local 5k between September 11, 2010 and September 19, 2010.

2.         Post the name and location of your race and a recent 5k PR by September 10, 2010, in the DoppelLaufers Good Natured Taunting and Race Reports thread. We do not want to penalize anyone who tore up the track in school, but who does not run at that same level now. If this is your first 5k, simply take the best one mile split you have run in training and multiply by 3.1. If you are unsure of your one mile pace, then we can set your PR equal to the average of all runners (effectively a 0:00 handicap) and you can use the results of this race as your PR for the next virtual race, likely to be a Turkey Trot.

            Honor system folks, this is just for fun, so no sandbagging!

3.         We will average the PR’s of the all entrants to establish handicaps and adjust finishing times accordingly in order to determine a winner.

4.         Post your race results after your race. Finishing time will be based on your chip time, if available, and will be adjusted based on your handicap.

5.         All entrants must have a sense of humor and a thick skin. Good natured trash talking is encouraged.

6.         In the event of a tie – a virtual Thunderdome is under construction. Two men enter, one man leaves!

7.         The winner will receive a virtual trophy, bragging rights and the ire of everyone whose butt they kicked.

As far as handicapping, we can work off the lowest PR, the highest PR, or an average.

What do you think?

I figure post it in General Running and maybe update it periodically with a list of entrants to bump it up.

2010 Space Coast Marathon 4:27:39

2011 Charleston Marathon 4:25:58

2011 Croom Fools Run 50k 6:16:51

2011 Marine Corps Marathon 4:24:48

2011 Jacksonville Bank Marathon 4:44:12 (4:45 Pace Leader)

2012 Florida Keys Ragnar Relay 28:20:47 (3rd place-Mixed Ultra)

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198. Aug 19, 2010 9:33 AM (in response to rbird)
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yeah! I get to join in. My first 5k is 9-11. However, truthfully my goal is just to finish the cotton pickin thing. I won't have completed C25K yet.

The guidelines look good. But what would be the advantages or disadvantages of lowest pr vs highest pr vs average in determining handicap?

And thank you for taking the time to put it together.

Shona

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199. Aug 19, 2010 10:07 AM (in response to ShonaP)
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I’m not sure there is a difference. Using an average makes sense to me, but I don’t think I can articulate why.

I don’t have any experience with working with handicaps like this, so I’m kind of just guessing how to do it.

I figured we can use the highest PR and adjust everyone’s time up.

Use the lowest PR and adjust everyone’s time down.

Or use an average and adjust times up or down as appropriate toward the average.

I tried to throw together a quick spreadsheet to calculate everything automatically and quickly found out that Excel doesn't like negative time values, but I think that can be overcome.

2010 Space Coast Marathon 4:27:39

2011 Charleston Marathon 4:25:58

2011 Croom Fools Run 50k 6:16:51

2011 Marine Corps Marathon 4:24:48

2011 Jacksonville Bank Marathon 4:44:12 (4:45 Pace Leader)

2012 Florida Keys Ragnar Relay 28:20:47 (3rd place-Mixed Ultra)

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200. Aug 19, 2010 10:17 AM (in response to rbird)
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Looks good Bird.

By the way DW, since I (un)officially beat your 22:18 with my 22 minutes(after handicap) I must (un)officially drop you as my hero and become (un)officially my own.

Sorry man. It's ok- let it out. I am sure Bird or Jim will let you cry on thier shoulder if you need to.

Maryalicia

Stroller Racer Extraordinaire!

I know you don't like me racing with my stroller, but I will do my best to respect you and the race!

AKA -Jim's Virtual Racing Antagonist Assiatant!

FEAR THE STROLLER! (Just saying)

Next -

Columbia Gorge Half Marathon, Hood River, OR, October 24th, 2010

ORCC Autumn Leaves 10K Run, Champoeg Park (Newberg, OR), 30 Oct 2010

Some Turkey Trot Race (Can't decide between Zoo or Sherwood)

Hot Butterred Run 12K Run, 27 Novermber 2010

Complete:

ARC in Motion 5K walk/run, Vancouver, WA (35:25 with a stroller)

Spark your Heart 5K Run, Bend, OR 4 July 2010 (31:08 with a stroller)

A Servant Festival Race 10K - Run for the Homeless, Vancouver, WA 7 August 2010 (60:11 with a stroller)

Skirtchaser 5K, Vancouver, WA 7 August 2010 (30:01 with a stroller)

Clark County Running Club, 5K Training Run (28:00 with a stroller)

Oregon Wine Country Half Marathon, Carlton, OR, 5 September 2010 (Chip Finish 02:01:10.0)

Round UP on the Bluff 5K Run and Fun Walk, University of Portland, OR 18 September 2010 (No Chip- But timers have me at 22:50)

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201. Aug 19, 2010 10:28 AM (in response to Maryalicia)
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Maryalicia wrote:

.... I am sure Bird or Jim will let you cry on thier shoulder if you need to.

Not a chance. Suck it up man, we did when she so quickly dropped us like a pair of socks after a 16 mile run, and smooched up to you.

Bird, excellent! I like it! Sorry, I know jack abotu handicapping and averages etc. But Ill dig around and see what I can learn.

Virtual Racing Antagonist. I run for beer and cupcakes.

1 Mile PR 6:44

5K PR 22:21

10K PR 48:30

Half Marathon PR 1:48:43

Marathon PR - 4:09:10

i before e except after c, weird?

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202. Aug 19, 2010 10:34 AM (in response to Beer and Cupcakes)
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"Don't you wish your girlfriend could run like me" /sing songy voice

BTW Jim..need to pull out the dictionary again. mispelled about.

Maryalicia

Stroller Racer Extraordinaire!

I know you don't like me racing with my stroller, but I will do my best to respect you and the race!

AKA -Jim's Virtual Racing Antagonist Assiatant!

FEAR THE STROLLER! (Just saying)

Next -

Columbia Gorge Half Marathon, Hood River, OR, October 24th, 2010

ORCC Autumn Leaves 10K Run, Champoeg Park (Newberg, OR), 30 Oct 2010

Some Turkey Trot Race (Can't decide between Zoo or Sherwood)

Hot Butterred Run 12K Run, 27 Novermber 2010

Complete:

ARC in Motion 5K walk/run, Vancouver, WA (35:25 with a stroller)

Spark your Heart 5K Run, Bend, OR 4 July 2010 (31:08 with a stroller)

A Servant Festival Race 10K - Run for the Homeless, Vancouver, WA 7 August 2010 (60:11 with a stroller)

Skirtchaser 5K, Vancouver, WA 7 August 2010 (30:01 with a stroller)

Clark County Running Club, 5K Training Run (28:00 with a stroller)

Oregon Wine Country Half Marathon, Carlton, OR, 5 September 2010 (Chip Finish 02:01:10.0)

Round UP on the Bluff 5K Run and Fun Walk, University of Portland, OR 18 September 2010 (No Chip- But timers have me at 22:50)

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203. Aug 19, 2010 10:35 AM (in response to Beer and Cupcakes)

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This is what I worked out so far. Make sense?

Name	Race	Date	PR	+/-	Handicap	Time	Final
dwm082			0:22:19	+	0:02:21
JimDo64			0:22:21	+	0:02:19
rbird	Autumn Rock-n-Run 5k	9/11/2010	0:23:58	+	0:00:42
MaryAlicia			0:30:01	-	0:05:21
ShonaP	Paws for the Cause 5k	9/11/2010
thingmabobby


		Average PR:	0:24:40

I gave Don the honors as reigning champ.

2010 Space Coast Marathon 4:27:39

2011 Charleston Marathon 4:25:58

2011 Croom Fools Run 50k 6:16:51

2011 Marine Corps Marathon 4:24:48

2011 Jacksonville Bank Marathon 4:44:12 (4:45 Pace Leader)

2012 Florida Keys Ragnar Relay 28:20:47 (3rd place-Mixed Ultra)

Check it out - I'm bloggin'!

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204. Aug 19, 2010 10:47 AM (in response to Maryalicia)
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Maryalicia wrote:

"Don't you wish your girlfriend could run like me" /sing songy voice

BTW Jim..need to pull out the dictionary again. mispelled about.

ah, but you ARE my 'virtual' girlfriend remember.

thats not spelling, thats dyslexia. you have no idea how many letters I transpose when Im typing away. I fix most but miss some once in a while.

Bird, looks good, i cant think of any reason that wont work for us. Tanks.

Virtual Racing Antagonist. I run for beer and cupcakes.

1 Mile PR 6:44

5K PR 22:21

10K PR 48:30

Half Marathon PR 1:48:43

Marathon PR - 4:09:10

i before e except after c, weird?

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205. Aug 19, 2010 10:50 AM (in response to Beer and Cupcakes)
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That looks great. To fill in my information my PR is a 25:32 (I'm #83 - http://www.coolrunning.com/results/10/ma/May2_1stAnn_set1.shtml) and the next 5K I'll be running is the 10th Annual Fort Phoenix 5K (http://www.runreg.com/events/register.asp?EventID=2396) on September 12th.

Enjoying running everytime I go out!

http://www.dailymile.com/people/BobbyL

5K PR: GNBTC Spooky 5K - October 31, 2010 (22:38 - 7:17 pace)

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206. Aug 19, 2010 10:50 AM (in response to rbird)
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So, when do I post my pace rate (which is embarassing.. but heh.. we have to start somewhere). Should I wait until closer to the race to see if it improves?

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07/26/2010 - C25K Started

10/01/2010 - C25K Graduated!

W9D3 - Completed

Completed Runs

10/09/2010 - North Central Alabama Susan G. Komen Race For the Cure - 42:20

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207. Aug 19, 2010 11:44 AM (in response to ShonaP)
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My event is 18 Sep 2010 - 'Round UP on the Bluff 5K at 9am.

Maryalicia

Stroller Racer Extraordinaire!

I know you don't like me racing with my stroller, but I will do my best to respect you and the race!

AKA -Jim's Virtual Racing Antagonist Assiatant!

FEAR THE STROLLER! (Just saying)

Next -

Columbia Gorge Half Marathon, Hood River, OR, October 24th, 2010

ORCC Autumn Leaves 10K Run, Champoeg Park (Newberg, OR), 30 Oct 2010

Some Turkey Trot Race (Can't decide between Zoo or Sherwood)

Hot Butterred Run 12K Run, 27 Novermber 2010

Complete:

ARC in Motion 5K walk/run, Vancouver, WA (35:25 with a stroller)

Spark your Heart 5K Run, Bend, OR 4 July 2010 (31:08 with a stroller)

A Servant Festival Race 10K - Run for the Homeless, Vancouver, WA 7 August 2010 (60:11 with a stroller)

Skirtchaser 5K, Vancouver, WA 7 August 2010 (30:01 with a stroller)

Clark County Running Club, 5K Training Run (28:00 with a stroller)

Oregon Wine Country Half Marathon, Carlton, OR, 5 September 2010 (Chip Finish 02:01:10.0)

Round UP on the Bluff 5K Run and Fun Walk, University of Portland, OR 18 September 2010 (No Chip- But timers have me at 22:50)

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208. Aug 19, 2010 12:03 PM (in response to Maryalicia)
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Hey Maryalicia (or St. Pauli's Girl?) how is it running with a stroller? I would think it would be much tougher because of the added weight you have to push as well as not having an optimal running form. It seems to eliminate your arm pumps.

I ask because I have a 1yr old and my mother bought me a used running stroller. I tried walking with it and the front wheel is a bit warped and it's the kind where you have to lean on the back to pick up the front wheel in order to turn. It's pretty old and I don't think I'd ever use it. Also the new ones are crazy expensive! I saw some rediculous prices at a bike shop recently.

Enjoying running everytime I go out!

http://www.dailymile.com/people/BobbyL

5K PR: GNBTC Spooky 5K - October 31, 2010 (22:38 - 7:17 pace)

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209. Aug 19, 2010 12:33 PM (in response to thingmabobby)
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Look at that stroller of hers in her profile pic, its no slouch of a stroller, in fact Im pretty certain I see its motor powered and has a skateboard hanging off the back for her to ride on....

Virtual Racing Antagonist. I run for beer and cupcakes.

1 Mile PR 6:44

5K PR 22:21

10K PR 48:30

Half Marathon PR 1:48:43

Marathon PR - 4:09:10

i before e except after c, weird?

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