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  • lovethosehills Amateur 32 posts since
    Sep 9, 2009

    I've been reading this thread for a while, but never posting. I am within three weeks of my first full marathon! All went well in training until my 19 mile run. I had a little tenderness in my left knee. Dr. insinuated IT syndrome....YEAH! All this training and no marathon, you're kidding right. Second opinion, my neighbor is an orthopedic surgeon, and thought the first Dr was perhaps a little overzealous in the diagnosis; ice, roll, take it slow. Third opinion, a running Chiropractor...kneecap out of alignment, as well as some IT issues. two visits, and two runs later, I am looking forward to my 8 miles tonight and 12 on Saturday. I am now in taper mode, and truly blieve I can conquer this bugger in under 4hours. Then we'll call it a marathon career...halves after this. Loved Hal's novice 2 program, and look forward to reading more from all of you!

     

    Happy Running!!!

     

    Lance

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Jess- thanks for that helpful update about your "terrible" run.  It was warm and took me 2:35 to run my 10 miles on Weds - way too long.  Now there is hope that maybe I can do the HM in 3:00.  Forecast is a low of 61 deg, so maybe it will stay cool enough to make a difference.  This race is in Nashville. Miles 5-10 of the course will be mostly downslope, so that will help make it easier to do an even or negative split for that part, and the last 3 miles are mostly flat near the river. We will see.





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    Jasmine- i know your race is tomorow and want  to wish you the best luck

     

    We have a big marathon here tommorrow as well that runs past the front of my house- that's not my race- my race is in 2 weeks-and is a much smaller crowd.

     

    It's gonna be about 48 degrees tommorrow morning-so at this point i am planning to do my last "long" run of 12 miles tommorrow morning on the towpath- I should have the place to myself as all the "real" runners will be on the marathon course.

     

    my energy level is a bit low- Very busy with work for the next 5 weeks or so- end of construction season madness- but if this upcoming weeks project goes well- I am going to take most of the following week off, leading up to my race, to  ensure that I have fresh legs for my Half- maybe do some biking, mostly

     

    trying to replace my shoes today as well- of course the ones i want are no longer made-running store ordered in the up-dated model-it came in as a 9-1/2 womens- not much good for a 240#  guy--- been waiting 3 weeks now- if it isn't sorted out today I will have to buy something else

     

    again, very best wishes

    stephen

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Steve- thanks for the good wishes. Yeah- nerves are starting to flip my stomach now.  I'm packing up all my stuff for the hotel, then driving up to get my packet, drive the course and settle in.  The race day forecast has flip-flopped all over the place, and has now settled on thundershowers starting at 4PM, going thru about 3AM, then clearing skies with a forecast of 67 for race start.  Not cool, but not hot. Luckily my training temps have been in this range, but a 58 or 60 would have been a nice gift.

     

    My last run was Weds, 4 miles w a few short hill repeats. I followed it with a 1 mi swim, but since I hadn't done a serious swim in a while, that made my shoulders sore.  Yesterday I had my pre-race pedicure. That pampering is something I save for milestone events, like this HM, and keeps me from going to run, like I was tempted. HA!

     

    I am confident I can finish this, I just hope my run-to-walk ration stays high in the last half of the race - maybe the adrenaline will help me thru.  If I have anything left in the last mile or two, I will know I don't have to "save" it.  I'll report back later with results.





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • Turtle Who Runs Pro 110 posts since
    Sep 29, 2009

    Hi everyone,

     

    I hope you don't mind me joining your group.  I've been away from these message boards for awhile, and recently found my way back.  It's nice to see that some old fellow posters have graduated from the C25K and 10K training boards to now a half marathon/marathon board, and to meet some new people as well.  Glad to see everyone keeping up with their running in additional to living crazy, busy lives.  When I read all of your stories, it's so amazing to me that most of us have gone from running 30 second intervals at a time, to running 9, 10, 11, miles at a clip, and training for half marathons.  You guys are so inspiring, and you are all so motivating!

     

    As for me, my first HM is on 10/2, the Hamptons Half Marathon, but I've been lacking in some of my training, so this weekend is going to be my one, and only 10 mile run before the race.  I did 9 a couple of weeks ago (before vacation), and it went relatively well, but I can't say I'm looking forward to 10 miles, especially because it's going to take me 2:35 to do it.  Normally, it would be 2:30, but I've noticed that my pace get slower the longer I run.  Since I've decided to run my 10 miles on Sunday (morning temps in the 50's--yeah!!!), I will either take a couple mile walk or hop on my bike for a nice little 5 mile ride tonight, and rest up tomorrow.  I am so nervous about this race (if you read any other posts I've done this week, you'll see how bad it's been)!  I can do it, with some walking, but I'm just so nervous about how my body is going to react to the additional miles.  Even in my 4 miles runs this week, I've been a little sore.  That does not bode well for the 10 and 13.1 I'm undertaking.  I probably need to work on stretching more, for sure.  During my long training runs, I've been practicing with different energy sources, and found that the Shot Blocks are the best for me, despite the fact that I'm not so much a lover of gummy products.  GU gel is okay, but sucking down chocolate frosting during running did not make my stomach feel so good, and the Sports Beans are way too sweet for me.

     

    It's so great to how successful everyones races are going, and how much training you put into the upcoming races.  Can't wait to hear from everyone still waiting to run their next race.  Until then, keep on training!!

     

    -Kelly





    -I may be slow, but at least I'm moving forward. 
  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Well, I arrived in Nashville this afternoon, checked in, then drove the course (during rush hour-Yek!).  There are a few steep hills, but many long slow climbs, especially in the first half.  Sounds like I will do more of run/walking during the first part than I expected, but if it saves my legs, then maybe I can run most of the last half & it will be more enjoyable.  Maybe the slow climbs won't feel as steep as they look. At least I know what to expect.

     

    This is my first big race with a GPS & a HR monitor, and yes, I did train with them, so it is not a new variable.  Since I hate running without mileage and music, I have the GPS & the iPod plugged in tonight to be sure. Trying to wind down to sleep now. See ya'





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • PaintingLady Legend 906 posts since
    Dec 12, 2009

    Good luck Joann. Hope you do well, and I know you will. Wish I could be there, but

    looks like it will be another 3-4 weeks before I can get back to running.





    Marie from Tennessee

    Training for Disney 2013 Goofy Challenge.....Yes, I'm certifiably CRAZY!

    61 year olds must be out of their minds to run a half marathon followed by a full the next day!

    Disney Half Marathon 1/7/2012 2:37:59

    Bear Hunt 5K 9/24/11 28:28 pb

    Trojan Trek Trail 5K 8/6/11 31:45

    Expo 10K 5/28/11 1:01:28,

    Expo 10K 5/26/12 1:05:39

    Eastman 10K 9/8/2012 1:01:11 pb

    "Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us." Hebrews 12:1


  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Well folks, the good news is that I finished the half marathon, but it took longer than I expected and my few problems will sound petty. Most problems I had are associated with the fact that I did a minimum amount of hill training and the Nashville course had a lot of ups and downs. It was a beautiful day, after the rain overnight, with temps in the upper 60's, so weather had no impact.

     

    I actually did better than I expected in the first half of the race, inspite of a major hill and most of the inclines.  After speed-walking the big hill at mile 0.5 at a 14.5mm pace, I actually did very well on mile 2 before settling into a series of runs, with uphill walks.  Throughout the first 10 miles, I was able to average 15mm pace (my training pace), even with more walking than I hoped for.

     

    Unfortunately, by mile 10 my body had enough and started to protest. First one calf then the other would start to cramp up when jogging, so my run/walk ratios got smaller.  Then near mile 11 after another big hill downtown, my calves just would not let me run, even downhill, and I could not take advantage of the easy sections left.  So the last miles of the race were basically walking to finish, with a few calf stretches along the way.  I even had a hard time getting into a jog for the last block to the finish because the leg would start to cramp. Time for the last 5k was almost 56 mins. Total time 3:27:10

     

    My prognosis is that I just didn't train hills enough, as all my distance runs were relatively flat. By mile 10, my legs were "used up" from the hills.  Oh well, lessons learned - this was not an easy course for a first timer. And I didn't have a friend to "share" the event with, except you folks here.  I ended up with one blister under my toe, no other issues of chaffing, two wardrobe malfunctions, and a tired back.

     

    But the weather was great, the other runners were enthusiastic and the volunteers, entertainers, and bystanders along the way made this a great event.  All finishers got an huge awesome medal shaped like a music note. The race organizers did an exceptional job for 5000 participants.

     

    Message was edited by: Jasmine1972 Race time corrected





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • PaintingLady Legend 906 posts since
    Dec 12, 2009

    Jo Ann!!! You are my hero!!! Awesome job! Be proud!





    Marie from Tennessee

    Training for Disney 2013 Goofy Challenge.....Yes, I'm certifiably CRAZY!

    61 year olds must be out of their minds to run a half marathon followed by a full the next day!

    Disney Half Marathon 1/7/2012 2:37:59

    Bear Hunt 5K 9/24/11 28:28 pb

    Trojan Trek Trail 5K 8/6/11 31:45

    Expo 10K 5/28/11 1:01:28,

    Expo 10K 5/26/12 1:05:39

    Eastman 10K 9/8/2012 1:01:11 pb

    "Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us." Hebrews 12:1


  • Turtle Who Runs Pro 110 posts since
    Sep 29, 2009

    Joann,

     

    Congratulations on finshing the half!!  You should be so proud, you did a great job!

     

    -Kelly





    -I may be slow, but at least I'm moving forward. 
  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    congrats on your " half" v Jasmine- another milestone out of the way!

     

    turtle- probably too late to experiment with another energy source- but I tried one yesterday- Candy Corn !!!!, LOL

     

    here is the deal- my house sits right on mile marker 7 for a huge local marathon- my half- is in 2 weeks- so I got up and drove out of town to my favorite trail run for my final  long run before my half- 12 miles- my wife stayed home and watched the local marathon out front

     

    anyhow- last long run was a big problem for me after mile 9 or so-------------- so this time- up early- had a peanut butter  on wholewheat with a lot of strawberry jam-and a good handfull of candy corn- then while driving to the trail I forced down a quart of gatorade-and carried another quart with me on the run- finished with maybe 20% of the quart still in the bottle- I also took some more candy corn onm the run in a little baggie- I figured if I started to crash and burn around mile 9 again I could at least try the sugar- turns out it wasn't remotely necissary

     

    my original goals for the half were

    1) finish

    2) break 2:15

    3) Break 2:30

     

     

    pretty sure now- the only one of those I will actually achieve is 1)- finish

     

    having a little  right knee issue- and some right ankle/lower leg issue- icing etc.- i was always  planning to walk through the fluid stops because I figured drinking out of a cup on the run would be problematic

     

    current plan is- I will do it just like Yesterday- force down a quart ahead of time- and carry another quart- yesterday I ran 1 mile- walked 100 steps- ran 1 mile, walked 100 steps- the whole way- went quite smoothly- so unless my right leg falls off, I am totally confident of finishing my first half- just not in the style I hoped for, LOL

     

     

    Best wishes again and congrats to Jasmine

    stephen

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    Oh- forgot to mention

    my wife yesterday watched the "real" runners in front of the house- she said- " a lot of those people were just shuffling- I can shuffle- let's get me a pair of shoes, I can do this"

     

    keep in mind she has been around serious competitve runners for the last 10 years( my oldest son and his friends)- this is her first flash of interest in doing it herself-- so I am gonna try to hook her up with the C25k program.

    stephen

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Thank you everyone for your congrats - it is nice to have a cheering section here and I did think of you often while running.

     

    During the first third of the race, when I wasn't on an uphill, I actually found myself flying along, and I had to tell myself to take it back a notch and not overdo it.  On some easy slopes I was still doing under 15mm pace- at least for a while.  My HR monitor was doing wacky stuff in the first few miles- showing a HR over 200! If it was that fast, I'd of been flopping on the ground. I had the alarms set to advice when the HR was in zone 5, and those alarms went crazy the whole race.  I've got to figure out what's wrong if I'm going to use the monitor as a tool.

     

    Yesterday, I was just stiff and walked real funny. Today my quads are the only muscles talking to me right now-but not too bad. A rainy day outside provides a great incentive to stay inside and just rest.  I loved my iPod playlist, now as familiar as a warm blanket.  Ironically, "I will survive" by Gloria Gaynor was playing as I crossed the last, long bridge.

     

    I am wondering if my calf cramping problem is more due to lack of hill training or lack of electrolytes/carbs.  I had oatmeal, almonds & raisins 2.5 hrs before the race, and a small PB-bagel 30 mins prior.  I started on water and added Gatorade as I continued the race- using my bottles (48 oz) and not the fluids on the course, but I still had some left at the end.  I also had a few sport beans too but no Gu.  I never felt weak/hungry, but did feel tired near the end.  Any thoughts?

     

    The original HM I was training for is in 6 weeks, and the course hills seem less difficult, with more "flat" stretches.  But I've got to find some place to do my 6 mile runs that is hillier so that I can work on building that capacity. And yes, I think I will even practice speed walking up steep hills occassionally- just to get those muscles tuned up. Whatever I can do will help me in on the flatter and shorter races.

     

    Stephen- I am sure that you will do fine for your race, even with the problems with your knee and ankle, especially with your long distance training.  The run/walk method seemed to work well for me through the first 9-10 miles.  I tried to run 1/4-1/2 mile between walks if there were no hills, but there always seemed enough of those.  Here is to us! - may we eventually run our HM's in the style we'd like to become accustomed too!





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • Turtle Who Runs Pro 110 posts since
    Sep 29, 2009

    Joann,

     

    I'm glad you're not feeling too bad after the HM, and you certainly deserve a rest day today.  I don't remember if you discussed it, but could some of your calf cramping be because you didn't stretch enough? I've also read that dehydration can also lead to cramping, and some people actually take salt tables to retain some fluid to prevent muscle cramps.  I know that Shot Blocks makes a triple salt Margarita flavor to prevent cramping.  Just my thoughts.

     

    I ran my 10 miles today, and around mile 8 I really started feeling bad.  My hips were killing me and they were really stiff.  I've had that before, but I don't know how to get rid of that pain.  Worse yet, I started getting lower bad spasms, which I've never experienced before.  I stretched more than usual before my run, so I'm thinking/hoping that was the problem.  It was miserable.  I'm getting a little discouraged about the HM next Sat., and I think I'm going to be done in 3:30 instead of my original prediction of 3:15, then my next prediction of 3:25.  Ugh!!

     

    Being that you're now a veteran, I'm curious about what you were eating the week before the HM.  I'm trying to think about what's best, and if there are any items that are better than others to make you feel better on race day?

     

    Thanks,

     

    Kelly





    -I may be slow, but at least I'm moving forward. 

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