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44Kristi Amateur 19 posts since
Sep 2, 2010
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Mar 17, 2011 5:50 AM

Pace Feedback while running - any help?

I am trying to get my 5K race time under 30 minutes, but the only way I can get my pace information while running is to hit my IPOD button and wait for the Nike report on pace distance and time.  I would like to know if there is a product/gadget that automatically prompts you if you fall below a preset pace OR just automatically announces your pace.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks

Kristi





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  • Angelique Simpson Pro 92 posts since
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    1. Mar 17, 2011 6:55 AM (in response to 44Kristi)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    Yes, absolutely!! Garmin has a number of GPS watches that do exactly that, they range in price from about $60 (I think) and upwards of $350+. I've got the 405cx and love it, I don't run without it. You get stats at the end of the run plus real-time stats as you go. Do some research on all the available models before picking one, there are a lot of reviews online and more details that will help you decide what would be best for you.

     

    Cheers!





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  • PaintingLady Legend 906 posts since
    Dec 12, 2009
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    2. Mar 17, 2011 9:09 AM (in response to 44Kristi)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    Luv, luv, luv my Garmin Forerunner 305. Gives you immediate feedback on pace and heart rate. Plus you can set all sorts of stuff to beep you if you are above or below your planned pace. Runs around $130 from Amazon.





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  • jdoughe3 Rookie 1 posts since
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    4. Mar 21, 2011 7:10 AM (in response to 44Kristi)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    I'd suggest the Garmin 305.   The newer models (405, 405cx) are smaller, but harder to use, in my opinion.   I find it difficult to handle the necessary motions when at high heart rate and sweaty.  The 305 has buttons that I can handle at any pace.   Add to that the 305 pricepoint and I think it is the best choice.

     

    To your original question - all garmins have a "shadow runner" function.   You program it for a 30min 5k - and it will show the little competitor running on your watch - with an indication on how far ahead or behind you are of the little bugger throughout the race.  I have a deep seated mistrust of my "shadow runner"- my imagination tells me it sometimes speeds up to beat me.

     

    Real time pace is too much info for me - but it also has an autolap function.   I set it to .25 or .5 mile - then it beeps and tells you your average pace for that period.  To me, this helps find the right balance between being "in the run" and looking at my watch.

     

    I think you are in MN - if you want to give mine a try - I run over lunch in downtown St. Paul frequently.   Send me a message and we can meet up so you can give it a spin.

     

    Enjoy!

  • Hoolia214 Amateur 9 posts since
    Mar 21, 2011
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    5. Mar 21, 2011 8:57 AM (in response to jdoughe3)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    Do the garmins measure heart rate w/o a chest strap? I've been looking at heart monitors for a month or so and haven't settled on one yet. I'd like one that continuously measures heart rate and will alarm if it is too high w/o me having to press and hold a button for 3 seconds while running.





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  • BigGillyStyle Rookie 5 posts since
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    6. Mar 23, 2011 11:54 AM (in response to Hoolia214)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    I'm not aware of any watch-type devices that monitor heart rate through the watch strap itself.  The Garmins do use a chest strap, but you don't have to hold any buttons for a few seconds...it's continuously monitored.  I have the Forerunner 310XT, which displays 4 measurements at once.  I have heart rate displayed as one of those and thus can just glance down at my heart rate at any instant.  The other parameters I've chosen are cadence, current lap pace (lap = 1 mile for me), and total distance.

  • 64spokes Pro 60 posts since
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    7. Mar 23, 2011 2:54 PM (in response to 44Kristi)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    sportstracklive.com has a $10 app (free demo version) that lets you set up training plans, and will prompt you to go faster/slower.  They are by speed in km/h, so it's not very refined for running.  Personally I just set it to give me my overall pace every .5km  I use that for both keeping over 5m/km on long runs, near 4.5m/km on pace runs, and for doing slow/fast .5 km intervals.  I use the Android version, but I'm pretty sure they have one for Apple too.

  • ActiveWatches Dave Legend 207 posts since
    Apr 13, 2010
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    8. Mar 23, 2011 2:55 PM (in response to BigGillyStyle)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    Bowflex sells a strapless HRM watch, but I've heard complaints about its accuracy.  It may be worth checking out though.  Good luck!





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  • 64spokes Pro 60 posts since
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    9. Mar 23, 2011 2:58 PM (in response to 64spokes)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    Sorry, no Apple option on sportstracklive, but I'm sure there MUST be 'an app for that'.

  • twelvefootboy Amateur 8 posts since
    Jun 14, 2010
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    10. Mar 24, 2011 7:41 AM (in response to 44Kristi)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    Kristi:

     

    you can't go wrong with the 305 imho.  it is a little quirky, and you need to practice with the functions.  worst feature to me is that if you inadvertently hit the big right button, you pause/stop your timer and you might not know it.  big disappointment after a long time trial.

     

    you can suffer from too much information; i divide my 5K's up into 1/2 miles with the autolap feature and set my race screen for :

     

    current pace

    heartrate

    lap pace

    lap distance

     

    i have the total time/distance on other screens, you get to have 3 different screens with up to 4 data points each.

    your 30 minute goal is simple if you can stand metric laps, 6 minutes per lap with a 1K lap distance.

     

    my mojo is that if my lap pace is on schedule i keep cruising.  if it's behind a little, the pace/heartrate tell me if i have any gas available and the lap distance tells me how much time i have to make it up.  if i see a big hill in front of me,  oh well... note that the current pace is flighty and may not respond to speed changes instantly.  the lap distance works great for me, you can see the seconds drop faster as you push early in the lap, and slower if you push later.

     

    i split my bigger races into miles.

     

    i haven't played with the shadow runner feature.  what i wish is that you could put it against a previous race you ran on the same course, but i don't know when i'd actually do it.

     

    i'm curious about the 310x - does it have a cadence feature for running?  i will look it up, but that is the thing that i'd like the most for training runs.  it gets annoying to have to count and do math all the time.

     

    good luck,

     

    kdmeares

    missouri

  • twelvefootboy Amateur 8 posts since
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    11. Mar 24, 2011 7:43 AM (in response to BigGillyStyle)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    BigGilly:

     

    Your cadence function is just for the bicycle, right?  It seems like Garmin would have a footpod accessory or something to give us cadence.

     

    tks,

    kdmeares

  • BigGillyStyle Rookie 5 posts since
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    13. Mar 24, 2011 9:30 AM (in response to twelvefootboy)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    Twelvefootboy-

     

    Yes, Garmin does sell a foot pod for the 310XT: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=15516.  I have that accessory and have used it for the ~1.5 years I've had my 310XT.  It's great and easy to move between different shoes.  It makes it MUCH easier for me to ensure that I'm hitting my 90 strides-per-minute target (it counts only one foot, of course, so 90 SPM = 180 SPM for both feet).

     

    I looked at the Garmin product page for the 305 (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=142&pID=349), and it lists the foot pod as an available accessory as well.  If you're on the latest software version for your 305, I'll bet in Running mode that you can see a "Cadence" as one of your display options.

     

    BigGillyStyle

     

    P.S.  Amazon sells the foot pod for a current price of $57 (http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-010-11092-00-Foot-Pod/dp/B00264GKVQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1300984152&sr=8-1).

  • 64spokes Pro 60 posts since
    Apr 24, 2009
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    14. Mar 24, 2011 10:33 AM (in response to 44Kristi)
    Re: Pace Feedback while running - any help?

    I also have a 'Mobile Metronome' app, but I found it was too hard to try to match my leg speed to a fast ticking.  What I plan to do is just get my running app to update me every 2 min, and simply count my steps for those 2 min to see if I'm aproximately on pace.  I think I'm reasonably close just by concentrating on a smooth fast stride.  There comes a point where we can over analyze things, and take all the fun out of it!

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