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Nov 3, 2006 7:46 AM

Morton's Neuroma?

anyone had it? and still run? thoughts?
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1. Nov 3, 2006 8:46 AM in response to: sandijam
Re: Morton's Neuroma?
Hi,

I have been diagnosed by a foot specialist as having Morton's Neuroma-which, as explained to me, is an enlargment of a nerve in my foot close to, and between the toes. It is extremely painful, particulalrly when walking barefoot. The more I run, the more it hurts. I was advised that surgery is an alternative but not particularly successfull. I had an injection of what I think he called dry alcohol-whatever that is and can't say one way or the other whether it was helpful or not. I'm supposed to have a series of these injections. Compared to the other parts of my body that seem to hurt all the time from running, this is something that I think I can just suffer through. Its not like knee or back problems. You might try orthotics and maybe some support under your toes. Good luck!
Click to view MediumTee's profile Amateur 10 posts since
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2. Nov 3, 2006 12:26 PM in response to: sandijam
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Hi - I've also had this. I think I may have had it for several years before it became almost unbearable. First, it felt like my socks were bunched up under the ball of my foot - then, my second and third toes started to point out. (like a "peace sign" kinda). It took several trips to different podiatrists to actually get it diagnosed. I tried orthotics, pads, physical therapy. After it was diagnosed, I tried shots. Didn't work for me. Last November, I had it removed... felt like it was the only option for me. After the Dr. removed it, he showed it to me -- what is supposed to be about the size of a pencil lead was actually the size of the end of my pinkie finger! After surgery, I walked right away... then began walking / running. The worst thing about the surgery is the numbness. It's really weird when you can't feel part of your foot! (My toes were straightened out right away, too)

Now, here I am about a year later, and I'm glad that bugger is gone. Still have a little numbness, but am running as much as I want.

Good luck!
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3. Nov 3, 2006 2:56 PM in response to: sandijam
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Yes I have it. It is under control for the last 4 years. I went to 2 podiatrists, first one wasn't a runner, didn't understand why I wanted to run. Second was a runner, injected it twice, sent me to a pedorthist and I was fitted with inserts. Now I only wear shoes with a wide toe box and that are the correct size for my feet. It was to the point that I could not walk one half block without taking my shoe off and subbing it out, now I run until I'm tired not in pain.
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5. Nov 8, 2006 3:58 PM in response to: sandijam
Re: Morton's Neuroma?
quote:<HR>Originally posted by sandijam:
thanks for the feedback.
I already had orthotics. (maybe I should get them checked?)
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Do your orthotics have a Metatarsal Pad? I was wearing very good arch supports for my PF (Plantar Faciatis) when my Neuroma developed. The orthotics the doc made for me not only had the arch support but a padding that fits just behind the ball of the foot (the Metatarsal Pad) that relieves the pressure on the Metatarsals.
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7. Nov 9, 2006 9:17 AM in response to: sandijam
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Supposedly I have that too but my pain is mostly on top of my foot, rather than the ball. Wonder if this was an incorrect diagnosis or if others have pain there too?

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Click to view motherof4's profile Amateur 36 posts since
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8. Nov 15, 2006 11:32 PM in response to: sandijam
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I have been dealing with this since May and have tried all of these things. I trained for Chicago Marathon and ran it, but it stinks running in pain and having to massage the foot even couple of miles until finally around mile 14 your foot just goes numb and you can continue running.
Nothing has helped me so far and have scheduled surgery for after the holidays. It sounds like I can't run for 3 months or even ski for 6 weeks after surgery. Does this sound right?
I am trying acupuncture next week. Anything to avoid this surgery.
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9. Nov 16, 2006 10:48 AM in response to: sandijam
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by motherof4:
I have been dealing with this since May and have tried all of these things. I trained for Chicago Marathon and ran it, but it stinks running in pain and having to massage the foot even couple of miles until finally around mile 14 your foot just goes numb and you can continue running.
Nothing has helped me so far and have scheduled surgery for after the holidays. It sounds like I can't run for 3 months or even ski for 6 weeks after surgery. Does this sound right?
I am trying acupuncture next week. Anything to avoid this surgery.
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Hmmm... I was able to run as soon as I could. The weirdest part was the numbness in my forefoot. I was walking the next day, and worked up to walk/run and then run, as some of the feeling came back. I'm pretty sure I was running within a month. Not sure about skiing, since your forefoot is an important part of balance - at least for downhill skiing. But, if your doctor suggests not running... probably should follow that. (My doctor didn't tell me this)

I'd be interested to hear if acupuncture works!!

Good Luck!
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11. Nov 19, 2006 7:31 PM in response to: sandijam
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i had surgery on both my feet for mortons. (diffrent years) one surgery i was sooo good about not doing anything the last one(i had a 1,9 and 12 yr old) not soo good and i have scar tissue. i ran boston in april and had pain from the scar tissue. my podiatrist can't do anything unless i come in when i have the pain (a shot of cortisone to break it up)
and my long runs are on the weekend and hes closed!!
my suggestion.. wide shoes,big toe box.. be careful with not getting on that foot too soon!! after surgery!! good luck!
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12. Dec 4, 2006 8:20 PM in response to: sandijam
Re: Morton's Neuroma?
Well I tried the acupucture twice and didn't see any difference. It actually did hurt (the first needle). I decided to go ahead with the surgery as I think I have another one (neuroma) between the 2nd and 3rd toes now too (the other is between 3rd and 4th)
I think this might be from changing the roll of my foot due to the pain. I figure get it down before I screw up something like my hips or knees.
Thanks for your input.
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13. Dec 17, 2006 1:32 AM in response to: sandijam
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by MediumTee:
Last November, I had it removed... felt like it was the only option for me. After the Dr. removed it, he showed it to me -- what is supposed to be about the size of a pencil lead was actually the size of the end of my pinkie finger! After surgery, I walked right away... then began walking / running. The worst thing about the surgery is the numbness. It's really weird when you can't feel part of your foot! (My toes were straightened out right away, too)<HR>
What was removed? The nerve?

quote:<HR>Originally posted by goal2run:
Yes I have it. It is under control for the last 4 years. I went to 2 podiatrists, first one wasn't a runner, didn't understand why I wanted to run. Second was a runner, injected it twice, sent me to a pedorthist and I was fitted with inserts. Now I only wear shoes with a wide toe box and that are the correct size for my feet. It was to the point that I could not walk one half block without taking my shoe off and subbing it out, now I run until I'm tired not in pain.<HR>
Man, that's inspiring. Right now, I'm pretty bummed out by this.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by runningintx:
Do your orthotics have a Metatarsal Pad? I was wearing very good arch supports for my PF (Plantar Faciatis) when my Neuroma developed. The orthotics the doc made for me not only had the arch support but a padding that fits just behind the ball of the foot (the Metatarsal Pad) that relieves the pressure on the Metatarsals.<HR>
How does that feel? I've heard that it feels like you've got a marble in your shoe under the ball of your foot.

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I've ordered some neuroma/metatarsal pads and I've ordered some new shoes (Asics Gel Nimbus VIII in an EE width instead of D). Hopefully that will help. I got a cortisone injection on Thursday and running today, it was almost the same as before the shot -- at approx. 3.5 miles into the run, my second toe (the "index" toe so to speak) starts to numb. It was only a 4 mile run, so the pain didn't progress that much, but it was still a disappointment.
Click to view Richard D Wiley's profile Amateur 17 posts since
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14. Dec 17, 2006 12:19 PM in response to: sandijam
Re: Morton's Neuroma?
I just had the Morton's Neuroma removed from between my 3rd and 4th toes on my left foot - Friday December 15th.
I have medicine for pain but have not had to take it so far.
I have been in misery with this since early 90's. I have only been running for about 4 years now. Up until about 6 or 7 months ago I would be in a lot of burning, numbing pain for maybe a week and then run/walk with minor pain for around a month or so.
Now for these last 6 to 7 months I have not enjoyed a single day without pain from the nerve. If I was not in pain then my foot tingled from the small toe area across to the big toe each time my left foot touched the floor, a constant reminder to walk with focus.
Right up to just hours before the surgery I mentally tried to find a reason to back out of the surgery because I was just plain scared of the results. I even called the Dr. on Thursday and discussed the possibility of decompression surgery instead.
In the end I am glad I followed through, even though I wil not really know the results concerning the ability to run again for quite some time. The inflammed part of the nerve the Dr. removed was about the size of a nickle and the remainder on either end of the nerve was a mass of knots. All of this means that doing nothing and hoping that it heals was just not going to happen. I am going to see the Doc on Monday to have the drain removed from the incision on top of the foot and have him check eveything out, including weight bearing. He told me when he called to check up on me Saturday that he wll want me to continue using crutches for another week to give the operation every chance heal properly. I am a little sore in the
the middle of the ball of the foot, he said that was from the local shots he gave. I have several questions to ask of course. I am trying to be optimistic, last week I registered for the St. Patricks Day 8K in DC on March 18th.
Sorry for the kinda long post. I will post again after I see the doc and post my progress unless asked not to bore folks with it. Till, Richard