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JAHural Rookie 7 posts since
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Sep 7, 2010 1:44 PM

One year from Half to Full Ironman

I just took the plunge and signed up for my first Ironman (Canada)...at age 50.

 

I did an Olympic distance race in late June and I am doing my first Half IM in late Sept.

 

My question is where do I go from there?

 

I am already doing a 50-100 mi bike ride every Saturday. My swims are generally 2000-3000 yds. And my long runs are currently 10-13 miles.

 

I am thinkning of pushing up to marathon running distance by winter, maybe entering a marthon in January(?). Then my 24 month Ironman training plan would start in mid February. Does that sound like a reasonable plan?

 

I mainly need help deciding what kind of training to do between now and February when I start a standard IM training program.

 

Thanks,

 

John

  • IronMakeover Community Moderator 738 posts since
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    1. Sep 7, 2010 3:49 PM (in response to JAHural)
    Re: One year from Half to Full Ironman

    Hi John,

    Cool and yes it's always a plunge for your 1st IM distance right! Is it a 12-month IM plan?

     

    As for the next few months it depends on your time/goals. If you have a family/job, I'd focus on good time/etc with them while staying strong and healthy, prepping for a great start to your base IM training.

     

    Your body feels every step of a run, so I wouldn't suggest going long or ramping up tons of miles over the winter. I don't know if you live in a warm climate and are able to run outside on nice giving surfaces? But either way, you don't have to run a marathon before doing an IM marathon. For real. If you want to do it for the experience and have time to fit it in without doing too much too fast and getting injured then do it. But, don't feel you have to run 26.2

     

    Training Bible's Joe Friel agrees. He has some resources at http://www.trainingbible.com/pdf/TBCIMRun.pdf.

    When I took the USAT coaching class elite running coach Bobby McGee didn't suggest marathons pre-IM either, especially close to the IM race season.

     

    Let's see what the others think or have experienced.

     

    Best to you,

    Sara





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  • BT.ROB Legend 271 posts since
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    2. Sep 8, 2010 4:03 PM (in response to JAHural)
    Re: One year from Half to Full Ironman

    I agree with Sara that time off training or dialed back is important; you would be burned out by next summer. I started in triathlons last year at age 50 with Sprints then this year Olympic distance and a full IM (Vineman). My one and only marathon distance in my life was at the IM. I did a half marathon race and about that distance and a little more several other times in training. Over last winter, there was cross training, weight work, and general fitness. I did runs on snow packed trails and not on roads to keep my knees healthier (and it is great for form practice). I know I was worried about the daunting goal I had set for myself, but I was also very aware of what else was going on in my life and the need for training without over-training. I'm sure you will be fine.

     

    BT

  • grid-rider Legend 235 posts since
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    3. Sep 8, 2010 5:10 PM (in response to BT.ROB)
    Re: One year from Half to Full Ironman

    At 50, I took a different route,but 2011 looks great

  • BT.ROB Legend 271 posts since
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    5. Sep 10, 2010 12:11 PM (in response to JAHural)
    Re: One year from Half to Full Ironman

    John:

    Say hello to my brother Kirk who also lives on Bainbridge and works downtown. He bike commutes everyday but can't get him to think about doing triathlons. He does the Chilly Hilly most years though.

     

    I have used the 80% rule for years, particularly for long races (200 mile road bike, 1/2 to full Marathon, 1/2 to full IM) and century rides. If you can do 80% of the distance a few weeks ahead of the event you will be fine. For a marathon that is about 20 miles. Then you only have to think about finishing a 10K from that point.

     

    BT

  • dkhartung Pro 98 posts since
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    7. Sep 11, 2010 5:54 PM (in response to JAHural)
    Re: One year from Half to Full Ironman

    I hear you.  It certainly wouldn't hurt to really focus on building run endurance over the winter.  There are a lot of folks who don't believe you need to have done a marathon before going to IM.  I'm sure that works just fine for some since the races are totally different, but I was glad that I had run the distance in a race before hand.

     

    One thing we did that helped (at least psychologically):

    -  Three weeks out from the marathon, did our last long run of 20-21 miles

    -  Two weeks out from the marathon, we did a full Aquabike (2.4 swim, 112 ride)

    -  then tapered back and raced a marathon.

     

    It was good for the head to know that we had done all of the distances in a short period of time.  This was done before we started the actual IM training program, more of a capstone to the previous year.

  • Moriates Legend 297 posts since
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    9. Sep 13, 2010 6:19 AM (in response to JAHural)
    Re: One year from Half to Full Ironman

    Take some time in the prep stage then base base base.  The longer the base the better but not so long that you burn out.





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  • Moriates Legend 297 posts since
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    11. Oct 27, 2010 12:09 PM (in response to JAHural)
    Re: One year from Half to Full Ironman

    Send me an email and I can give you all the info you need.  xtrememultisports@msn.com

     

    It is to much for a post.

     

    Thanks





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