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Yes, yes this does seem excessive, however, I don't eat after 6pm the night before a race so I wake up absolutely starving. I'll usually go with either a half bagel or oatmeal and not both. Plus, I eat plain yogurt (less sugar) out of a larger container so I only end up having 4-6oz. The electrolyte drink, I sip on until 30 minutes before the start of the race. My next ultra is 8/11 -- Mt. Disappointment 50 miler Welcome to our new site, glad to have you!