From the story that Shade_of_Blue posted:
"The coach blind-sided the umpire," said the grandmother, who asked to have her name withheld <b>for fear of retaliation</b>."
Sounds like they have way more problems there than just some POS Coach.........
Vallejo Babe Ruth has been a historically ill behaved league.
I was at a 14yr old All Star game Saturday where their 14's were losing when in to the batters box steps the opposing teams relief pitcher who at that moment, was 3 for 3 thus far in the game... I called it, told my 15yr old son, he's gonna get plunked... sure enough right in his back.
And what makes me think it was called was that the pitcher did not throw his fast ball nor his curve... it was an aimed pitch that I believe the kid only threw because of coach, hence it had little on it.
Vallejo still lost that game; as they should have.
Too close to home for me. I've never umpired in Vallejo and have heard nothing of this kind of behavior. The article doesn't say much about the buildup to this violent event. Wonder how both blues were handling the "little things" that raise the red flags in your head...
Here in CA, as in other states, there is a special enhancement for assaulting an official before, during, or after a game. It doubles the fine and possible imprisonment.
See CA Penal Code 243.8 (a)
"Many baseball fans look upon an umpire as a sort of necessary evil to the luxury of baseball, like the odor that follows an automobile." - Christie Mathewson
The article doesn't say much about the buildup to this violent event. Wonder how both blues were handling the "little things" that raise the red flags in your head...
Obviously, it shouldn't matter. No amount of mishandling of little things should result in physical retaliation. If these umpires were bad, then the tournament organizers should do the right thing and not assign them any more games.
Griffin declined to identity the coach. She said the team's players are suffering from the automatic game forfeiture.
Ejecting the manager results in a forfeiture?
Don't know about Babe Ruth, but many rules provide for a forfeit if an ejected person does not leave the field in a timely manner.
I suspect that The time it took to knock the umpire unconsious (after being tod "your outa here!") could be construed as not leaving in a timely manner and therefore a forfeit.
(A variation of MLB 4.15 (f) (f) Fails to obey within a reasonable time the umpire?s order for removal of a player from the game;
Ejecting the manager results in a forfeiture?
In California high school baseball (at least in the Southern section of the CIF), it does exactly that.
Maybe Babe Ruth carries over the local HS rule.
Babe Ruth uses OBR with VERY LITTLE modifications there in.
For 'assault upon an umpire' we turn to Rule 9.05 (b)...
"(b) When any trainer, manager, coach or player is disqualified for a flagrant offense such as the use of obscene or indecent language, or assault upon an umpire, trainer, manager or coach or player, the umpire shall forward full particulars to the league president within four hours after the end of the game."
So coach cold-cocks a blue he gets ejected; here is nothing in rule 4 (4.15-.19) alloting for a game to be forfeited due to assault upon an umpire.
I suppose if an EJECTED coach/manager cold-cocks a blue then we can now eject manager/ activing manager; were only two Adults present, you now longer have a coaching staff ergo plausible cause for forfeiture.
But other than that, the on field officials had nothing her to hang their forfeit hats on...
This being the State Tournament, the forfeiture MUST have come from either the State Commish, Region or HQ...
My ear remains to the rail to gleen more intel.
Vallejo Babe Ruth coach Davis turns self in, booked for assault
Earlier, he denies striking umpire during weekend tournament
By Times-Herald Staff
Published By Times Herald
Posted: 07/20/2010 10:14:01 PM PDT
Vallejo Babe Ruth Little League Coach David Davis was booked into Solano County Jail on Tuesday night after he turned himself in over a weekend incident involving an alleged assault on an umpire.
Police said Davis, who introduced himself as Daniel to the Times-Herald earlier Tuesday, has been booked on a charge of battery against a sports official. Bail was set at $5,000. He faces a maximum fine of $2,000 or up to a year in jail, according to Penal Code 243.8.
Davis was the first base coach with the Vallejo's 15-under little league team during a state tournament at Wilson Park on Sunday when he allegedly struck an umpire following a close play at first base, and an ensuing argument.
The incident began in the top of the seventh after Vallejo rallied to take a 5-4 lead over Sonoma. After a Vallejo player tried to beat out a single to first, the first base umpire called him out. Davis told the Times-Herald on Tuesday that he was calm and used no profanity when he argued the play and the umpire immediately tossed him out of the game.
The game was forfeited to Sonoma.
Davis said he did not strike out at the umpire, but was merely defending himself against him when the umpire charged at him. The umpire could not be reached for comment.
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