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Shades_of_Blue Amateur 23 posts since
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Jul 20, 2010 1:03 PM

Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

  • laguna_brewers Pro 79 posts since
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    1. Jul 20, 2010 1:32 PM (in response to Shades_of_Blue)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    From the story that Shade_of_Blue posted:

     

    "The coach blind-sided the umpire," said the grandmother, who asked to have her name withheld <b>for fear of retaliation</b>."

     

    Sounds like they have way more problems there than just some POS Coach.........

     

    'Nuff Said.

  • YoBlue! Expert 47 posts since
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    3. Jul 20, 2010 2:30 PM (in response to trexonu)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    Too close to home for me. I've never umpired in Vallejo and have heard nothing of this kind of behavior. The article doesn't say much about the buildup to this violent event. Wonder how both blues were handling the "little things" that raise the red flags in your head...

     

    Here in CA, as in other states, there is a special enhancement for assaulting an official before, during, or after a game. It doubles the fine and possible imprisonment.

     

    See CA Penal Code 243.8 (a)

    CA Penal Code 240-248





    "Many baseball fans look upon an umpire as a  sort of necessary evil to the luxury of baseball, like the odor that  follows an automobile." - Christie Mathewson

  • oldhardballer Legend 787 posts since
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    4. Jul 20, 2010 4:28 PM (in response to Shades_of_Blue)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    Copied and pasted that link, but nothing came out??? Anyone else have a better link?  Don

  • trexonu Pro 163 posts since
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    5. Jul 20, 2010 4:48 PM (in response to HugoTafurst)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    I have a great lawyer for the kid.  The coach will sweat for years, and the kid will get an education on the imbecile coach. Piece of Scat coach, indeed.

  • BlueBeak Legend 300 posts since
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    6. Jul 20, 2010 5:12 PM (in response to Manny_A)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    It worked for me Don. Highlight it, hit Ctrl c, then paste it in the address bar ctrl v

     

    Hope it works for you





    Time wounds all heels.....

  • StrikesnOuts Rookie 1 posts since
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  • oldhardballer Legend 787 posts since
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    8. Jul 20, 2010 5:25 PM (in response to StrikesnOuts)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    Got it.  Thanks.  Surprised it didnt make it to You Tube?

  • Manny_A Legend 841 posts since
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    9. Jul 21, 2010 4:54 AM (in response to YoBlue!)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    The article doesn't say much about the buildup to this violent event. Wonder how both blues were handling the "little things" that raise the red flags in your head...

     

    Obviously, it shouldn't matter.  No amount of mishandling of little things should result in physical retaliation.  If these umpires were bad, then the tournament organizers should do the right thing and not assign them any more games.

  • RichW Pro 129 posts since
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    10. Jul 22, 2010 4:27 PM (in response to oldhardballer)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    Griffin declined to identity the coach. She said the team's players are suffering from the automatic game forfeiture.

     

    Ejecting the manager results in a forfeiture?

     

    - RichW

     

  • HugoTafurst Legend 515 posts since
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    11. Jul 22, 2010 8:29 PM (in response to Rich_Ives)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    Don't know about Babe Ruth, but many rules provide for a forfeit if an ejected person does not leave the field in a timely manner.

    I suspect that The time it took to knock the umpire unconsious (after being tod "your outa here!") could be construed as not leaving in a timely manner and therefore a forfeit.

     

    (A variation of MLB 4.15 (f) (f) Fails to obey within a reasonable time the umpire?s order for removal of a player from the game;

     

     





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  • Atlanta_Blue Pro 149 posts since
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    12. Jul 23, 2010 6:05 AM (in response to HugoTafurst)
    Re: Another Ump Taken Down by POS Coach

    Ejecting the manager results in a forfeiture?

     

    In California high school baseball (at least in the Southern section of the CIF), it does exactly that.

     

    Maybe Babe Ruth carries over the local HS rule.

  • HugoTafurst Legend 515 posts since
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    14. Jul 23, 2010 10:19 AM (in response to RichW)
    Follow up story

    Vallejo Babe Ruth coach Davis turns self in, booked for assault
    Earlier, he denies striking umpire during weekend tournament
    By Times-Herald Staff

    Published By Times Herald
    Posted: 07/20/2010 10:14:01 PM PDT


    Vallejo Babe Ruth Little League Coach David Davis was booked into Solano County Jail on Tuesday night after he turned himself in over a weekend incident involving an alleged assault on an umpire.
    Police said Davis, who introduced himself as Daniel to the Times-Herald earlier Tuesday, has been booked on a charge of battery against a sports official. Bail was set at $5,000. He faces a maximum fine of $2,000 or up to a year in jail, according to Penal Code 243.8.

    Davis was the first base coach with the Vallejo's 15-under little league team during a state tournament at Wilson Park on Sunday when he allegedly struck an umpire following a close play at first base, and an ensuing argument.

    The incident began in the top of the seventh after Vallejo rallied to take a 5-4 lead over Sonoma. After a Vallejo player tried to beat out a single to first, the first base umpire called him out. Davis told the Times-Herald on Tuesday that he was calm and used no profanity when he argued the play and the umpire immediately tossed him out of the game.

    The game was forfeited to Sonoma.

    Davis said he did not strike out at the umpire, but was merely defending himself against him when the umpire charged at him. The umpire could not be reached for comment.

    Follow up article





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