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BlueBeak Legend 300 posts since
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Aug 21, 2010 3:20 PM

Low hanging fruit

Saudi Arabia and Taipei:

 

*Catcher for S/A throat gaurd is about a foot below the mask. More of an extra cup than a throat guard.

 

*Taipei kickin a$$ in the 1st inning, grounder to F6 with R1 coming in to 2b, he's OUT but hands held up high and with instant replay at my disposal (obvious intent), that's INT. But maybe U2 thought no chance at 1B anyway?





Time wounds all heels.....

  • mrumpiresir Amateur 26 posts since
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    1. Aug 21, 2010 3:35 PM (in response to BlueBeak)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    I saw that.  I had interference.

  • Mike_CVUA Legend 593 posts since
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    2. Aug 21, 2010 3:37 PM (in response to mrumpiresir)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    "But maybe U2 thought no chance at 1B anyway?"

     

    And what happened?  The throw went wild, and BR advanced to second.  If you had INT, but you felt that the BR was safe anyway, you'd allow the imputed consequences of said interference to advantage the offense?

     

    I don't think so!

     

    You NEVER conditionally think INT.  You either have it, call time, and rule, or you let the play go.

     

     

    Mike CVUA

  • Mark_in_SD Legend 207 posts since
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    3. Aug 21, 2010 3:40 PM (in response to ROUNDING_3RD)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    And, IMO, a quality throw had a good chance of getting the runner.

  • kono Expert 46 posts since
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    5. Aug 21, 2010 4:16 PM (in response to Mike_CVUA)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    Low hanging throat guards seems to be a theme today - see my post below.

  • Mike_CVUA Legend 593 posts since
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    7. Aug 21, 2010 5:06 PM (in response to BlueBeak)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    Beak

     

    As I said in another post, I got INT all the way! I goes like this:

     

     

    "TIME!  That's Interference!  The batter-runner is out!"

     

    Satisfied?

     

    Mike

  • Rich_Ives Legend 1,283 posts since
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    9. Aug 21, 2010 5:28 PM (in response to kono)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    I guess they've been watching Sportscenter and seen where runners going into second with their hands up (including at least one where the runner put his hand in the path of the ball) are not getting called for interference.

     

    Like it or not, it doesn't get called in MLB. We use their rules. Absent direction to the contrary it's our model and we follow it.

     

    Here are the RIM comments. I have bolded the key concept. And before you launch a counter attack please remember that as a coach I could be either on offense or defense and thus must consider it from both perspectives.

    INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS:

    +When a runner is moving toward second base on a double play ball, there is no requirement for the runner to slide.

    The fielder must expect the runner to be there.

    As long as the runner is moving toward the base, there would generally be no interference.

     

    If sliding into second base, the runner must be able to reach the base with hand or feet. If the sliding runner is not able to reach the base with his/her hand or feet, and in the umpires judgment the slide caused the second baseman not to complete the double play, call interference and get the out at 1st base also.

     

    If the batter or a runner continues to advance after he/she has been put out, he/she shall not by that act alone be considered as confusing, hindering or impending the fielders.

     

    If contact between the runner and fielder occurs after the ball is released, there would be no interference.+

  • Mike_CVUA Legend 593 posts since
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    10. Aug 21, 2010 5:32 PM (in response to BlueBeak)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    So if F4 turns to throw and plants it right into R1's grill, that's only because no one thinks INT should have been called?

     

    Wonder what a hard throw of a baseball on $7000 orthodontia would cause?

     

    Mike CVUA

  • mrumpiresir Amateur 26 posts since
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    12. Aug 21, 2010 5:47 PM (in response to Mike_CVUA)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    I don't see a problem with a runner staying upright, and as he gets to higher level ball he will surely get plunked.  The problem I see with this play is his intentional attempt to hinder the throw to first.  I will call interference everytime I see intent.

  • yaBLUEit Pro 69 posts since
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    13. Aug 21, 2010 6:29 PM (in response to Rich_Ives)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    Yes, and 'hinder' is not just a word, its an action! BRAVO!!!!

  • yaBLUEit Pro 69 posts since
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    14. Aug 21, 2010 6:54 PM (in response to Rich_Ives)
    Re: Low hanging fruit

    (e) any batter or runner who has just been put out (duh) hinders or impedes

     

    Yep! There's that H word again! Uhhhh.....HINDER. Mentioned in enuff particular apps in OBR to make it justified.

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