May 12, 2011 3:00 PM
A few questions
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Hi all, I started the C-5K program during the last week of April. I am 24, bordering on overweight, and looking primarily to get back into shape. I have not done any significant running since fifth grade, but played a little bit of football (soccer) the last year of college. I have no plans to race any time soon, but would consider it at some point in the future. I am running into a couple of problems; foremost, I am having major issues with breath control. Specifically, I seem to have made no improvements whatsoever in my lung capacity. I attempted to start the week-3 running yesterday, but could only get through 1.5 sets before getting so tired I had to stop. Are there any tricks I can employ to try to work around this?
Second, I have had persistent problems with my left calf cramping, beyond just the running; on occasion I climb mountains, and the left calf always cramps badly for awhile before finally letting go enough to let me finish climbing the mountain. Once it stops cramping I'm fine and can walk basically forever. I stretch before and after, and do a few different warmups. The right rarely ever gives me trouble. I stay hydrated, eat fairly well, and to my knowledge have no injuries. Any thoughts?
On a second note, I am debating trying to get my parents to try this program. They are both late-50s. My mom is not in good shape but is not especially overweight, I think this program would be very good for her. My dad, however, is about 300 lbs and has not run for many years. Would this program be remotely suggested for him?
CanyonClimber wrote:
Hi all, I started the C-5K program during the last week of April. I am 24, bordering on overweight, and looking primarily to get back into shape. I have not done any significant running since fifth grade, but played a little bit of football (soccer) the last year of college. I have no plans to race any time soon, but would consider it at some point in the future. I am running into a couple of problems; foremost, I am having major issues with breath control. Specifically, I seem to have made no improvements whatsoever in my lung capacity. I attempted to start the week-3 running yesterday, but could only get through 1.5 sets before getting so tired I had to stop. Are there any tricks I can employ to try to work around this?
Second, I have had persistent problems with my left calf cramping, beyond just the running; on occasion I climb mountains, and the left calf always cramps badly for awhile before finally letting go enough to let me finish climbing the mountain. Once it stops cramping I'm fine and can walk basically forever. I stretch before and after, and do a few different warmups. The right rarely ever gives me trouble. I stay hydrated, eat fairly well, and to my knowledge have no injuries. Any thoughts?
On a second note, I am debating trying to get my parents to try this program. They are both late-50s. My mom is not in good shape but is not especially overweight, I think this program would be very good for her. My dad, however, is about 300 lbs and has not run for many years. Would this program be remotely suggested for him?
First, you're body is working hard to adjust to running. Don't be afraid to repeat a week. You need to learn to listen to and trust your body.
Second, with respect to your calf, I had the same problem last year, starting in February or March. My last bout came at Thanksgiving, when I was 6 miles into a planned long run. In my case I believe the cramps were due to becoming a runner again. Don't stretch before you run, but make sure that you warm up before you run. Also, (1) buy a Stick or foam roller and really dig into your different calf muscles and (2) work on strengthening your calves with toe lifts and balancing on one leg.
Finally, the C25K program works, regardless of age. I know folks who have lost tons of weight doing it. Just remember that everyone is different and may have to take it more slowly than others.
Good luck and run long.
Surfing Vol

Surfing Vol
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The thing I will add in relation to breathing problems is to slow down. Probably 98% of beginning runners who have breathing problems resolve them by running slower.
I think Surfing Vol is right on the money on the calf problem. If you have a knot or trigger point it can be hard to get rid of and will keep popping up. Check this article:
http://www.thestick.net/Articles/Calf_%20Heart_%20Attack.htm
And this previous thread:
http://community.active.com/thread/74088
Your parents should have a good physical first, letting the doctor know what they have in mind. Then they might want to start with a solid walking program before getting into C25K. Particularly your dad, though you don't say how tall a frame those pounds are on.
Len
Len
Thank you both. I don't think speed is the issue - I'm restraining myself considerably on speed in the interest of trying to get farther, and barely going at a pace that requires jogging at all. The "build up over time" answer is probably the most applicable here. I just came from sea level, where I had spent a year more-or-less completely sedentary, to 6500 feet and starting a running program.
I'll work on massaging the calf. The issue I'm having doesn't seem to be an injury like that. For one thing, it always happens towards the beginning. I climbed Mt. Washington in New Hampshire last summer, and cramped for about 1/3 of the mountain before loosening up and finishing the trip with no other issues (at least, none related to the legs. Acid reflux, on the other hand...). As far as properly warming up before, should this be done on flat ground, or on ground of varying slope, given that I'm walking/running on ground that is not itself flat? Thanks again.
Pura vida
-CC
Uh, yeah . . . that kind of change in altitude has a BIG effect, and would even on an experienced runner. Still, the advice to slow down applies, at least until you acclimate to the altitude change. I would give the same advice to that experienced runner.
Len
Len
Update:
I filmed myself walking and running to see if I could peg the problem, and think I may have something. When I walk, I have a small but pronounced toe-out. When I run, that goes away. I suspect, therefore, that the problem is simply a matter of muscles that, when I wasn't running, weren't used much, having to adjust and strengthen. The cramps when climbing could therefore also be explained by me straightening my feet out when going up.
Altitude is not a problem - I regain my conditioning very quickly (2-3 days is typically the longest I notice anything). The breathing difficulties have been getting better as the weather has warmed up.
Thanks for all the advice.
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