Pony uses age as the cut off, moving up in field size every 2 years. In the 15 years I've been involved in Pony Baseball never had a problem with kid size in the 12U Bronco division which uses 48-70.
It did bother me in LL when I saw total disregard for 7.13....Why bother with the rule if it's not enforced?
It can have devestating effects.
So basically "they" can post an opinion but I can't?
Michael S. Taylor
If you can't see (and enforce) 7.13 as is how will you see and enforce 7.13 if the penalty is changed to an out? What changes that magically suddenly lets the umpire see the violation?
Of course not!!! I would love to hear your thoughts, but I want others to have their shot, and not have their wishes knocked around.
You are free to ignore me at any time!!
Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it!
The umpire doesn't belong on the infield grass in LL 60'.
In 90' ball the umpire should only be inside if there's runners.
They hardly ever get hit anyhow.
I like the way Pony does the move every two years but have no problem with LL's 60ft closed bases. I don't carry a flag during LL games but I cetasinly enforce 7.13. Bad umpires are not just in LL. I got a call the other night from Pony and they totally smoked a situation. Does that mean I will never go there again, not likely.
Michael S. Taylor
The out is a more serious penalty...Think coaches are going to risk a lead off runner out vs a don't do that or go back to the unoccupied base you came from?
An out is one penalty but taking runs off the board is worse if that's what happens. You have to remember that one runner affects all runners. Bases loaded, batter hits a double that he is trying to stretch to a triple and gets thrown out. If either of the three runners left early then all three go back. That is way worse than an out.
Michael S. Taylor
Really? Then why are there LL teams from Califonia, Montana, Mexico and Japan in Williamsport?
Both Mexico and Japan have their own births into Williamsport, so they will have teams every year
Montana's first year to ever have a team at Williamsport
California (which is 2 of the 6 states in the West Region) has more Little League being played than nearly anywhere else and just the math dictates they will have a team on a regular basis. With that said, Hawaii has been a couple of times recently from the West.
Rule 3.03, # 5---regular seaon play.
Change the requirement for a starter to re-enter the game for another starter---viz: currently, starter re-entering must play 6 & 1 before starter he replaced can re-enter. .
So often confused with Reg. IV(l)----6 & 1----mandatory play.
How many time have I heard..... "My starter re-entering has allready played his/her 6 &1."
I have encountered the best of local LL minds, umpires, coaches, officials.....not "getting" the difference between the two right!
Any change would suffice. Ex: delete the at-bat; add an at-bat; change the 6 & 1 to 3 &1---whatever!
[Any change at all that would end the "confusion" between the two requirements---currently, co-incidental!]
BearBlue and My 2:
I think the rulebook states that a team that deliberately violates 7.13 with the expressed intent to prevent a double play can be sanctioned pretty badly. A team that uses this as a strategy will be going beak to beak with me in a hurry.
Even if I am doing the game by myself, pretty egregious violations of 7.13 are easily seen. And I do enforce them.
Starts with training: They myth is that "the ball crosses the plate" where it's really "reaches the batter". Might be the same in some cases. But the coaches need a clue.
I think the rulebook states that a team that deliberately violates 7.13 with the expressed intent to prevent a double play can be sanctioned pretty badly.
You can eject the player and/or coach for UC for deliberately breaking a rule but you'd better be really really really sure it was deliberate.
If you're really really really sure it was deliberate then, after a warning, they do it again you can forfeit for deliberate breaking of a rule.
But you cannot award a DP.
Did I mention that you'd better be really really really sure it was deliberate?
"If umpire is struck by a batted ball while on the infield grass...He is part of the field and ball is live unless the ball gets stuck in his uniform."
That's the way the rule is now, sort of.
DO NOT mess with 7.13. It is, by far, the most fun rule to enforce. I've hade two poof plays, but the bases loaded triple, where the BR gets thrown out at the plate is the best. Don't take the possibility of calling that again away from me. Just calling an out is boring. Pulling runners out of the dugout, putting them back on the bases, and having the parents go "what, what, WHAT!?" is awsome.
Yeah, the AR is needed. Tossing kids for silly stuff, like accidental bat tossing, is stupid. There are a lot of instances where banning a kid from the next played game is too harsh. Ditto on the MC rule. We need an out here. Steamrolling a catcher needs to have a BIG penalty
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