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I'm a relatively new runner, early 40s and it became suddenly apparent to me about 2 1/2 years ago that I had slipped WAY out of shape and after years of being skinny, that was no longer a word to describe me. So I started running, a number of 5Ks, a sprint triathlon, several 10Ks, a few half marathons, this last fall a marathon. Fairly happy with my results in everything except the marathon, people tell me 4:25 isn't horrible for a first time marathon but my goals were a little higher.
I'd planned a spring and fall marathon next year to improve my time, but now I've snagged a free entry to a mid-June marathon. Which is only 6 weeks after the marathon I had planned in early May. Based on recovery from this fall, I was feeling decent after a week, and pretty much normal after another week. I'm doing 35-40 miles/week now, and plan to be doing a bit more than that before April but I don't think I'll have the schedule or the motivation to go past 50.
Does 6 weeks between two marathons seem reasonable without getting hurt? Or should I change one to a half marathon, or maybe switch from the planned May marathon to one a couple weeks earlier that's not quite as well organized so I have more recovery time?
Thanks for any thoughts, I'm not an extremely knowledgeable or technical runner. Mostly I leash up the dog and head out of the door.
You know your body and training requirements better than anyone else, but the six weeks between marathons would be more advantageous if you do not push yourself too much in early May with the goal of better preparation for the mid-June event. So, if you want to do both races, taper back your performance in the first outing for a quick recovery and an improved fitness level for the next event. Really, you could utilize the May opportunity as a training pace for the next challenge. Just decide which race is more important to you.
Wishing you all the best!
I would never do a Marathon just because it was free, they take too much effort and time.
That said I have many friends who have done Marathons as close together as you're describing, but I wouldn't.
The big problem is training for both. 3 weeks taper before marathon 1, 2-3 weeks of light training/rest after #1 now 3 weeks taper again before #2. You've just committed to nearly 9 weeks of easy training before a Marathon, that is not how I'd like to prepare for it. I've had marathons where I was not right for a good 4-6 weeks after, and others that I recovered from in 1-2 weeks.
What I would likely do is use it as a backup, if the weather in your May race is terrible like 85 degrees, skip it do a training run instead and do the one in June.
Probably not a right or wrong answer (unless you get hurt). I just did 2 in Oct, 1st one was my A race and ran a 20 min PR (BQ) and the other was 3 weeks later easy. I am just starting to train hard again, because my body felt both marathons for this long. Lots of people do it, but I think conventional wisdom is two a year space better. Good luck
It's certainly do-able. As others said, you have to pick one as the "A" race, and the other will be basically a fun run. I've done it, once three weeks apart and once four, but I'm slow to begin with so I don't know if you can base it on what I did. But I know a number of people who have run multiple marathons close together successfully, also sometimes doubling, i.e. two in one weekend. You might want to check out Hal Higdons Multiple Marathon plans: http://www.halhigdon.com/marathon/multiple/Multiplemara.htm on how to train between the two.
Makes sense. First marathon, thanks in part to early race competition adrenaline I badly mis-estimated my pace (no pacers), went too fast in the first half, and flamed out at the end with my quads siezing up.
The May marathon is basically a local run, and I need to control my pace better, and really run slower than I feel capable of for the first 20 at least. I know how fast not to go, I could better figure out how slow is a "safe" pace. Finish with a bit left in the tank.
Then in the June marathon, which is a more regionally known run and also known as being a very fast downhill course, I could try to take what I've learned and try to run a strong but not killing race.
I've found as long as you stay healthy for the first one, and don't do any crazy training in between running the second isn't too bad. I did NYC then Philly this year with a two week gap which may have been a bit too soon, but overall.. if I'm gonna spend all that time training, I want to run more than one marathon!
I also agree that the 6 weeks may be a bit tough.. you probably don't want to do any significant training until you recover from M1 and then you have to make sure you re-taper for M2 so you may not get much running in between. You might try some light cross training to keep active (swimming may be a nice low-imact choice) and keep the "active" mentality. Just my 2 cents..
Carol Dillenger http://www.warriormarathonrunner.com/ ran her 257th Marathon in Sacramento on 12/4. That includes 23 since she was diagnosed with breast cancer 24 months ago. Granted, her body is used to doing marathons every month, and she doesn't run them for speed. I think she said she expected to come in 'under six hours' (but I could be wrong there, in any case, she's not pushing it).
Now, she's not you, and you're not her. I know after I was done, (it was my first) I could barely walk. For three days. Went for my first very short very slow run today, and it was tough to say the least. But if a) you're not pushing yourself for a PR and b) you have a decent base, it seems perfectly doable. It all depends on you knowing your body.
(someone else on the panel mentioned meeting a guy at the airport once who was doing back to back Sat/Sun marathons, and was running them 'fast'. When you consider ultramarathoners who do 100 miles, doing 52.4 over two days is a piece of cake!)
CIM 12/4/2011 (1st Marathon) 3:27:19
Run Rocklin 12K 4/7/2013 52:59
6 weeks is PLENTY of time to recover and run another. It all depends on your pace and what you put into the first one. Use it as a long training run and take it easy being sure to stay hydrated and fueled up along the way (helps in recovery). Although if condiitions are perfect for the first one I still think you could go for your personal best and still be recovered by 6 weeks for the next one. Also, the more training miles you are able to get in the better your body will be able to handle the distance and recovery. I once did 5 marathons in 5 months and think you should be able to handle it.
I only do events for fun, but I believe it is very doable. Here's the events I've done this year not including the training:
2/20/11 Half Marathon
3/19/11 Half Marathon
4/16/11 Half Marathon
4/3/11 65 Mile Bike Ride
4/11/11 Full Marathon
4/16/11 Half Marathon
7/11/11 Olympic Tri
9/17/11 100 Mile Bike Ride
11/11/13 Full Marathon
12/11/11 Full Marathon
Still on the agenda/signed up for:
1/29/12 Full Marathon
2/19/12 Full Marathon
3/10/11 Full Marathon
I am 41 years old, have lost 65 lbs, and so far haven't had any injuries. I also cross train weekly in addition to my runs RPM/Zumba/Weight train/Swim/Power Yoga. I hope this is helpful. Just listen to your body and enjoy yourself!
Yes, 6 wks is plenty of time to recover as long as you don't try and run them both at your hardest. They are LOTS of runners who do marathons every month, some even several a month-just check out marathon maniacs.com or the 50 states marathon club websites. I run around 1 a month-that way I stayed "trained" but I've run Boston and the Gasset Marathon, so I don't go for speed, just the enjoyment. Dean Karnes ran 50 marathons in 50 days-the body is an amazing thing but you have to build up to something like that. I ran back to back marathons before (1 Sat/1 Sun) as do many Marathon Manics and it went fine-faster time the second day actually. I would suggest you cut back your running mileage during the week (quantity does NOT equal quality and may equal injury) between these close marathons. Unless you're an elite athlete, getting Just 1 long run a week with some speedwork for the anaerobic component and CROSSTRAINING to strengthen/use support and other muscles (Pilates is great) with moderate other runs is all that's needed.