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I had just ran a 5k in the morning and then a few hours later I was off to a reunion party. I bent down to take a picture and when I got back up I twisted my knee a little. This hurt for a few seconds and then I thought nothing of it.
I then noticed that the pain would come back if I bent my knee all the way back. I started some RICE on it. That didn't seem to do much.
While driving to work, I was rubbing the knee and I noticed on the left side, right where the joint is formed between the two bones, there was a spot that I could touch and doing so would radiate pain acrosss my whole knee. That spot appears to be a ligament or tendon because when I run my finger over it you get that snap back. (Hard to explain) When I get up in the morning, it feels slightly tight, but within minutes my knee feels fine.
I went to the doctor and he put me on rest and anti-inflammatory drugs and told me no running for 7-10 days.
I do not have any pain from this when I am walking, running, climbing upstairs, bending down or getting up, doing a knee lunge or a squat.
I've spent hours on the Internet looking at diagrams of the knee trying to pinpoint what could be wrong. I honestly have no clue.
Anyone else have a pain like this? If this is not better by this Thursday then I will probably be sent to a knee specialist for an XRAY or MRI.
Thanks for you replies!
There are so many influences that could be contributing factors (including the twisting that you mentioned or overuse, misalignment, leg muscle imbalances, foot issues or some other sort of trauma or injury).
I am surprised that your doctor did not go ahead with an XRAY, CT or MRI for a full evaluation, especially since the pain is not present in common activities that would typically fall under the general definition of "runners knee." It is possible that you have some tendon strain, nerve issues or joint damage, but again further tests would be necessary to diagnose exactly what is going on. Anytime there is radiating pain, other considerations should be explored, so maybe it a good idea to follow up with the knee specialist to be on the safe side.
It is probably something simple...and even if you have to cater to your knee in the future...that is easily done (custom orthos, sleeve/brace, for example).
Wishing you all the best.
My family doc said he wanted to try the simple stuff first before doing anything more. The pain of it has subsided slightly, but it's still there, so tomorrow I am going to tell him to go ahead and refer me to a specialist. I only started running in March and fell in love with it and now have all these goals I want to accomplish, so I would rather someone with extensive knowledge check me out and give me their opinion.
It's weird since it just doesn't bother me unless I twist a certain way or press on that spot on the side of my knee. I went for a 3 mile run to see if it would hurt and it didn't, but then I worried since it did hurt before that I could be doing more damage. My running career has just started. I can't be sidelined forever! I've spent many hours researching on the internet in my time off and it appears that plica syndrome matches most of my symptoms.
Hopefully, it's nothing major or something I can deal with. I am just eager to get back out there and start logging miles.
Thanks for your reply!
You mentioned a problem on the left side of the knee, but did not say which knee. In your second post you said the "side of" the knee, so we are probably talking about the left knee? If it is where the bones form the joint, I will assume you mean between the tibia and femur, but the fibula also joins at that spot. There is some controversy about the structures here among exercise enthusiasts. "Snapping" has often been associated with the Iliotibial band, but focusing on a body part or pain location may not be as productive as evaluating your tender running form before real injuries have a chance to develop. This may be out of the physician's or knee specialist's scope, but within the realm of physical therapy. Observation of form is very important.
Researching injuries on the internet is tricky. You'll see some of the more bizarre ailments ranked up there with the common ones, not necessarily in order of predominance or likelihood in your particular case, in a differential diagnosis. The docs' approach helps to rule out some of this complexity, but there is a lot more to know about how you run. Look for expertise with running and musculoskeletal performance, not just with anatomy and physiology.
An average guess would be the typical ITB syndrome, but with so few miles on those knees, I would not think so. Fact is, running tends to result in pain for a lot of newbies, even though the body eventually adapts and the pains often go away for good. It's ok to be cautious, but if you are going to be a successful runner, you are going to have to allow for a lot of pains for which over-treatment can be just as harmful.
Sounds to me like you can do quite a list of things that rule out the structural knee damage you fear. Repetitive motion of running seems to have brought on the symptoms, but your knee is subject to all these stresses at once. Choose your sport, because they don't always contribute to one another.
In my experience, running tightens up the muscles around the knee enough that many normal activities hurt, let alone other exercises like squats. You may have encountered a hyper-sensitive portion of your V. Lateralis muscle as it approaches the knee. It would be stiff in many new runners, and influence the movement of the knee and knee cap. It can cause radiating pain. Since the mass of your muscle tissue considerably outweighs the mass represented by your tendons and ligaments, and is a rich source of nerve endings and pain, I might start looking there in a training athlete, before I start looking for arcane minutia. Keep rubbing. It might be all you need.
Well, I went to the ortho and they pegged me with Chrondomalacia patellae (aka Runner's Knee). I got a shot of steriods in the knee that, after about 2 hours or so relieved all the pain I was having. Also go some prescription anti-inflammatory med called Mobic.
I've looked more into Runner's Knee and I am going to speak with the trainer at the gym to get exercises to help strengthen my quads more and also kinseology taping looks beneficial too since some of the problem could be that my knee cap isn't tracking correctly. This tape could hold everything where it should be while I condition the muscles around it.