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  • liebling Rookie 39 posts since
    Aug 26, 2007
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    46. Dec 26, 2007 6:00 AM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

    quote:


    Originally posted by Jim Sullivan:
    * bq. Originally posted by liebling:

    As the Russian linguist, Valentin Voloshinov once pointed out so accurately, "A word is a bridge between myself and another . . .but if one end of the bridge depends on me, then the other depends on my addressee."


     

    Yeah, but I can't help it if the other end is structurally deficient.

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    Ha! Your sentence is a PERFECT example of the point of Voloshinov's message, Jim. Now, were you being witty (I think so) or sarcastically hurtful to the original poster who objected to your tone, implying that his/her interpretation or the person him/herself is "deficient?" Perhaps one, perhaps the other, perhaps both, eh?

    All depends on who's listening/reading! My work here is done.

    Liebling

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  • Jim Sullivan032 Rookie 504 posts since
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    47. Sep 7, 2007 2:49 PM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

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    Originally posted by liebling:

    Now, were you being witty (I think so) or sarcastically hurtful to the original poster who objected to your tone, implying that s/he's interpretation or the person him/herself is "deficient?"


     

    Well, I was aiming for witty. I would never try to be hurtful, as any criticism of me is, as they say, water under the bridge.

  • gregw070 Rookie 244 posts since
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    48. Sep 7, 2007 3:10 PM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

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    Originally posted by qwestman:

    seems to me the manner in which she used it has the webster's definition of "accent or inflection expressive of a mood or emotion"...in this case, how can you determine the accent or inflection of the writer? you can't because you can't hear the accent or inflection


     



    I don't think she was confused over whether she was reading or hearing.  I think the tone (style or manner of expression in speaking or writing) of what she read sounded (conveyed an impression) condescending to her.  As liebling eloquently points out, that might not have been the intent.

  • RunningNurse026 Rookie 20 posts since
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    49. Dec 26, 2007 6:00 AM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

    quote:


    Originally posted by Jim Sullivan:

    Yeah, but I can't help it if the other end is structurally deficient.


     



    Oh BITE ME! !http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif|src=http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif|border=0!
    And just to clarify, the tone of that statement was joking and fun! (Please don't really bite me!)

    Let's just agree to disagree on this. Galloway's method works well for some and not for others-it's not for me to say that it's the best and only way and it's not for you (or anyone else) to say that it is "wrong." All I was trying to say is that you said something to the effect of "I have nothing against people who take walk breaks...." yet went on to describe how you felt it was "ineffective" to do so, it seemed to me to be somewhat contradictory. I'm sorry if I offended you, not my intent. So, as I said, let's just agree to disagree on this one and move on-you go ahead and run right on past me and I'll step out of your way !http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif|src=http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif|border=0!


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  • robertw477 Rookie 18 posts since
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    50. Sep 8, 2007 3:33 PM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

    I have tested the galloway method here and there. I am not a fast runner..anyway. For example so far my best half was 1:59. I have been distance running for only a year. I think anything that can get people these days to the finish line is fine with me. I always walk through a water station, after getting out of the way  !http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/smile.gif|src=http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/smile.gif|border=0!. I cant drink on the run. Most people in the races I see are not elite runners. Some are slower than me and many are faster. We live in a society where so many people are out of shape etc. If Galloway can get people to complete halfs and full races I am all for it. I am going too test galloway a little more to see how things go. Since I oftenr run positive splits I think I might be able to save a little more in races.

    Rob

  • Jim Sullivan032 Rookie 504 posts since
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    52. Sep 9, 2007 8:33 AM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

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    Originally posted by RunningNurse:

    Oh BITE ME!


     

    Oh, I don't bite anyone these days, as it takes longer than it used to, now that I've found a strategy called Gallobiting. I take a bite, than I take a break to chew for a while, then I go back and take another bite, etc.

    Some people tell me I'm not a real biter, but they're a bunch of elitists.

  • RunnersHigh Amateur 259 posts since
    Nov 24, 2006
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    53. Sep 9, 2007 9:40 AM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

    Some people would definitely classify this as walking breaks but during my marathons I usually will stop at about 5 or 6 fluid stations and briskly walk through them for a total of about 10 or 12 seconds.  The last 5 miles I don't stop.  I find that helps me get all the fluids in me and not on me since I am such a clod.  In my last bunch of marathons I usually pick off quite a few runners who are out of gas and I attribute this to good pacing and getting the proper fluids in me during the race.  My last few races are just under 3 hours and I don't think that stopping for a total of about 1 minute has hurt me get under the 3 hour mark, I actually feel like it has helped.

  • RunningNurse026 Rookie 20 posts since
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    54. Sep 9, 2007 10:06 AM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

    quote:


    Originally posted by Jim Sullivan:
    * bq. Originally posted by RunningNurse:

    Oh BITE ME!


     

    Oh, I don't bite anyone these days, as it takes longer than it used to, now that I've found a strategy called Gallobiting. I take a bite, than I take a break to chew for a while, then I go back and take another bite, etc.

    Some people tell me I'm not a real biter, but they're a bunch of elitists.

    [/B]

    Well Jim, just be careful, you don't want to injure yourself early on in your biting, taking you out of biting for a long time, maybe forever. So please, bite sensibly! !http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif|src=http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif|border=0!



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  • kaitlingarrett Rookie 23 posts since
    Apr 23, 2006
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    55. Sep 9, 2007 10:59 PM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

    I also started reading Galloways book on marathon training and thought walking breaks are for wimps!  Walking every 8 minutes from the beginning, please!!!  But as I got farther along in my training I did an experiment I did a long run with no walk breaks and a few weeks later I did the same long run with a 1-2 minute walk break every 40 minutes!  That second run was a lot faster and felt alot better!  And the next day I could actually walk!  I thnik the principal is walking uses different muscles so giving them a small break is a good thing!  I have also found wiht a few small walk breaks it breaks my long run up a little and I can actually go a lot  longer both physically and mentally!

  • brianfie Rookie 316 posts since
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    56. Sep 10, 2007 2:33 AM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

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    Originally posted by kaitlingarrett:

    I did an experiment I did a long run with no walk breaks and a few weeks later I did the same long run with a 1-2 minute walk break every 40 minutes! That second run was a lot faster and felt alot better! And the next day I could actually walk!


     



    Hi kaitlin. That's hardy surprising if your long runs are that challenging right now! Under these circumsatances I think walk breaks are a very wise measure.

  • Kegan36604005 Rookie 170 posts since
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    57. Sep 10, 2007 7:29 AM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

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    Originally posted by kaitlingarrett:

    ..........and a few weeks later I did the same long run with a 1-2 minute walk break every 40 minutes! That second run was a lot faster and felt alot better! ...........


     



    I'm suprised you saw a big difference with so infrequent walk breaks. I thought the +magic + to Gallowalking is to do them early and often.

    Personally, I am on the fence if I want to employ this method. My modification would be to take a two minute walk break every two miles, which for me equates to around every 22 minutes at my marathon pace.

    A 22/2 ratio! Does that make sense?





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  • elkinthepool Rookie 14 posts since
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    58. Sep 10, 2007 8:42 AM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

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    Originally posted by willamona:

    LOL The next marathon should be the first one where I am finally fast enough to not deal with the Gallow-walkers. THANK GOODNESS.


     



    Can I ask how you have to deal with them? Do they interfere with your run somehow? Otherwise I don't understand why it would be good to be faster?

    I should also add, is it run/walkers in general that bother you, or is there some way to identify Galloway's disciples from the others?

  • NYCross Rookie 161 posts since
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    59. Sep 10, 2007 10:06 AM (in response to qwestman)
    Re: walk breaks on long runs

    elkinthepool, although I can't answer why the other poster is glad to be in front of Gallowalkers, I can say that sometimes, like any other group of people, Gallowalkers are very inconsiderate. Obviously, if you're going to change to a much slower pace, you should pull off to the side and slow down somewhat gradually. If you can check to make sure no one is directly behind you, that's even better.

    If you're in the middle of a crowded race and you suddenly go from running to walking, the people who are running behind you will have to swing out to the side to keep from colliding with you, and that may cause them to cut other people off. That's not just true for Gallowalkers, but for anyone who has to or wants to suddenly slow down.

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