quote:<HR>Originally posted by oache:

Galloway training principles have been a major battle ground

guaranteed to bring some sarcasm almost immediately.

It would have been easier to just have the forum called "Who wants to fight" based on past history.

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Major battle????? As a former Marine who knows a thing or 2 about real battles, why not try something positive? Are you the one who knocks over mailboxes and pees on my tire?

Sarcasm? Here's a quote by Thomas Carlyle

Sarcasm I now see to be, in general, the language of the devil; for which reason I have long since as good as renounced it.

This forum is not about who wants to fight as you said, it's about folks wanting to ease into something that you take fro granted, running.

Here's an idea, oache: There are actually people trying to have a conversation in here, about a method they use.

These infantile "tongue in cheek" comments intruding on every thread feels a lot like trying to have a conversation at the grown-up table and having a bunch of twelve-year olds jumping in every ten seconds.

I disagree with goin4kona: It's not sad. It's sickening, irritating, and pointless. If you don't like the stuff Jeff Galloway preaches (and mostly I don't either) here's a link to his contact page: http://www.runinjuryfree.com/contact_us.html[/URL" target="_blank">

Tell him all about it. And leave us to talk like adults, and figure it out for ourselves. Run along. There's a popsicle in the freezer for you if you want it.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by puglogic:
Here's an idea, oache: There are actually people trying to have a conversation in here, about a method they use.

These infantile "tongue in cheek" comments intruding on every thread feels a lot like trying to have a conversation at the grown-up table and having a bunch of twelve-year olds jumping in every ten seconds.

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Actually I did post a serious comment to sue's thread about actually performance data of galloway versus traditional marathon running so I'm about even for serious vs "tongue in cheek" responses.

....and my response to goin4kona was serious too except for the coffee request ( I love Coffee). I'll include that having a good sense of humor is probably the most important part of being a runner and a marathoner. Nothing funny about training for 18 weeks to try for a PR and have marathon day turn into a disaster but it happens all the time.

Oh and I've spent quite a bit of time "leading" galloway groups navigate long runs and I think it is a great way to get someone that normally would not even try to complete a marathon to the finish line.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by puglogic:
Homemade french vanilla gelato for you instead of the popsicle
Sorry for my tone. I'm just really tired of it. change my training (I'm not that kind of runner), but as a scientific kinda gal it would be nice to know what's what about all those claims that get made.<HR>

Yummm...now we are talking.

as for data.....mrs oache was a group leader for a friend of ours that owns a Fleet Feet and has Galloway groups each year. We made some great friends through those groups but I really can't say that I met anyone that set a significant PR from the training program. I did get exposed to the whole gamut of running personalities including:

1. The runner that didn't run all week but showed up every other sunday and compalined that they couldn't keep up with the group.

2. The runner (gal) that discovered had some natural ability and probably could consider breaking 3:30 with some additional mileage, running experience, and prudent coaching. Pretty cool considering she didn't really have any prior running experience.

3. Lots of older runners that were looking to avoid injuries and run with other people.

4. Some very competitive newbies that thought they could run much faster than they could. This group was very fascinating to me but a complete pain in the butt to mrs oache.

We've moved recently and I miss a lot of the friends we made through these groups. I know they are telling funny stories every sunday as they sweat their way through the long runs.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by goin4kona:
It is sad to see that on a forum dedicated to fitness and building a running community that so many people want to make fun of others or put them down for commiting the ultimate sin of not running an entire 26.2 mi without a walking break. It is pathetic.<HR>

What's pathetic is that your reading comprehension is so poor that you came to the incorrect conclusion that people are being put down and made fun of for talking walking breaks in their marathons.

In terms of creating the Gallowalking controversy, I think the the Gallowalkers are just as guilty as the 'elitists' because they seem to dream up these attacks against their fitness goals.


http://This message has been edited by zpoint2 (edited Aug-03-2005).

quote:<HR>Originally posted by dg12:
Major battle????? As a former Marine who knows a thing or 2 about real battles, why not try something positive? Are you the one who knocks over mailboxes and pees on my tire?

Sarcasm? Here's a quote by Thomas Carlyle

Sarcasm I now see to be, in general, the language of the devil; for which reason I have long since as good as renounced it.

This forum is not about who wants to fight as you said, it's about folks wanting to ease into something that you take fro granted, running.<HR>

Dg12, long-time reader, first time caller. I have two questions:

First, I'm having some friends over for dinner tomorrow. I'm not sure whether to make pasta or steak. As a former marine who knows a thing or two about eating food, and as someone who nearly died defending the First Amendment and the right of Americans to enjoy pasta or steak, what do you suggest my friends eat?

Second, I received a pair of free synthetic socks, but they are double-layered and kind of thick. As a former marine who knows a thing or two about wearing socks, with considerable experience in the act of both putting on and taking off socks, what do you suggest I do?

I can't imagine any facet of life, be it public or private, pertaining to business or leisure, to which your experience is a marine would not be integral. Please reply promptly, referencing your career in the military as necessary.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by puglogic:
zpoint -- gosh, you're right. I especially like how supportive and non-abusive they are in this thread: http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Forum34/HTML/000004.shtml[/URL" target="_blank">

No fun being made there. I feel so much better. Thanks for straightening us out.<HR>

OK, so they're poking fun at gallowalkers. But I've yet to see a direct personal attack, and I guess that's what I had in mind.



I think the craziness will die down in a week or so, and this forum will go in the direction in which it was intended.