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8 Replies Last post: Apr 18, 2008 8:48 PM by Zurich Triple  
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Mar 5, 2008 1:19 PM

Harvard Sets Women-Only Hours for Gym

A story from Fox News reports that in response to a request by female Muslim students, Harvard University has created women-only workout hours at one of its campus gyms.

Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, in Washington D.C., said modesty may prevent some Muslim women from exercising in a co-ed environment. "If the women are dressed in a manner that makes it more comfortable to exercise, they may not feel it's appropriate for them to be viewed by men in that particular attire," he said.

But the change has angered students like Nicholas Wells, a junior who called the change a "lose-lose" situation in an opinion article he wrote for the Harvard Crimson newspaper. "It is an unreasonable policy that is unjust to men and useless to women," he wrote.

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1. Mar 7, 2008 8:59 AM in response to: Trish18
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I think that if you move into a country from another country with different rules and laws...you are choosing to move into a new country, so you should abide and follow their laws and not to change them. JMO.
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2. Mar 13, 2008 2:45 AM in response to: LivinFit
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It should be a policy that accurately reflects a proportional consensus of what the students want. If 10% of all students are women (muslim or not) who want women-only hours, then 10% of the gym hours should be reserved for them. Since I doubt this is the case, it's probably an overstated attempt to be fair and culturally sensitive. I do, however, disagree that it has anything to do with being American or from America.
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3. Mar 13, 2008 3:04 AM in response to: Trish18
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I agree with that to some extent.
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4. Mar 21, 2008 6:45 PM in response to: Trish18
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This policy is a significant and timely measure in accepting others' cultural norms. I believe both Muslim men and women benefit from the gender segregation, as will undoubtedly all women at the university if they choose to do so. While I suspect that some female athletes benefit from co-ed gym hours, the general female public will reap several rewards from the single sex environment: they will likely push themselves harder in cardio and strength; use the very important strength training equipment more frequently without fear of feeling humiliated, objectified, or out-of-place as they are likely to feel when in the more common situation of being a few women in a sea of men; feel more comfortable in appropriate fitness attire; and maintain a better focus and perspective on athletic/fitness development. My only hope is that the women-only hours rotate by day to better accommodate EVERYONE's schedules and that women who prefer such a forward-thinking environment are not relegated to absurd hours and that men do not continually lose out on the best hours - there should be a happy medium! I applaud Harvard for taking this bold initiative and I hope all students value this tribute to cultural / gender sensitivity.
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5. Mar 26, 2008 3:51 PM in response to: Trish18
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Here some more info on the article if anyone is interested:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/04/harvard.gym.ap/

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6. Apr 2, 2008 9:57 AM in response to: Trish18
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Well I come from a muslim community and i'm a huge "gymmer" and runner-oh yes and I'm a woman. I have to say that I couldn't support any guidelines that divide. The women can cover up and still work out. That is what most insecure people of any sex does, anyway. I'm sure the Harvard gym has air conditioning. As long as we divide for any reason-we fail. Being military as well, I suppose I also have a very lax attitude about exercise and sweat and things of that nature. If we do these kind of things for gyms, then-where does it stop? Schools, workplace, Churches? Does this type of thing sound familiar?
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7. Apr 8, 2008 8:40 AM in response to: HHMF
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You have a great point! I think when we can read news on a women running for president then another news story on women-only hours...makes no sense to me.
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8. Apr 18, 2008 8:48 PM in response to: Kate Murray
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If you want to "accept another culture's norms," then go to that country and accept them. Can you imagine being a guy with a busy schedule, going to the gym and seeing " Sorry, closed for Muslim women's exercise." Come on. I belong to the Y where there is a high percentage of women athletes and non-athletes working out all the time. No one judges them on how much they are lifting or how hard they are running on the treadmill. If someone is doing that, then THEY are the loser. What if these women had a cultural norm that said they didn't feel comfortable dining with men? Should we then close the cafeterias for them, too? How about driving on the road? Close the freeway at certain times? All the politically correct rhetoric in the world doesn't hide the fact that this is complete idiocy.