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5 Replies Last post: Apr 21, 2008 11:28 AM by raf66  
Click to view NotQuiteLikeTheWind's profile Expert 40 posts since
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Apr 9, 2008 10:02 PM

Help me pick a distance training tool please


I am finishing C25K tomorrow (or really C230minutes since I don't run a 10 minute mile yet) and am treating myself to a running toy as a graduation present! I intend to start Hal Higdon's Novice 10k program after C25K. I mostly run in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco. This will primarily be a toy but I would like something easy to use and that will help me track my distance and speed. My initial research indicated that the Garmin 305 is the thing I should be looking out but I am hesitant to plunk out $200 especially since the 405 is coming out and I expect prices will come down. Any other product suggestions? Should I just wait until June and see if the price drops? Thanks.
Click to view MikeWas's profile Rookie 6 posts since
Apr 1, 2008
1. Apr 10, 2008 11:16 AM in response to: NotQuiteLikeTheWind
Re: Help me pick a distance training tool please

I've never used a Garmin but I'm a big fan of my Nike+iPod.

Potential downsides:

1. It only works with an Apple iPod nano - great if you've already got one, a wee bit pricey if you don't.

2. Calibration might be an issue. I haven't calibrated mine yet and I have observed some distance error (espeically on there-and-back loops)

3. You have to buy either Nike $hoe$ with a special pocket or shell out another $30 or so for an armband + sensor pocket. (Third party)

But, if you like music while you run, already have/want to buy an iPod nano, and don't care if it's as accurate for measuring distance as a GPS unit might be, then it's definitely worth looking at.

Click to view jggillette's profile Amateur 26 posts since
Jun 9, 2004
2. Apr 10, 2008 8:38 PM in response to: NotQuiteLikeTheWind
Re: Help me pick a distance training tool please

I have the Forerunner 205 which is like the 305 but without the heart rate monitor. I love my 205 and it's sounds like exactly what you say you're looking for. As for location and distance, the GPS is very accurate a little less for speed as it takes a couple of seconds to really notice the speed change in the live pace area. It's close enough to give you a good idea where you're at for speed though.

If you have the money get the 405 but really, if you compare the 305 and 405 (click here to compare) there's not that much of a differnce. Besides the shape, the 405 has wireless capabilities. The 305 isn't as pretty as the 405 but if the price difference is enough I'd stick with the 305.


If you do get a Garmin product download SportTracks. It's a great way to log your runs and is free although if you like it and use it you should send a donation to help with further development.

Click to view RunAsics's profile Legend 279 posts since
Dec 11, 2007
3. Apr 14, 2008 4:56 PM in response to: NotQuiteLikeTheWind
Re: Help me pick a distance training tool please
Your options are footpod or GPS. You can google for brands and prices.

Nike+ is a cheap and cheerful footpod. You don't need Nike shoes but you do need an iPOD (not shuffle). However, they have just come out with a device to use instead of the iPOD. I had one. Works fine once calibrated. You get what you pay for and I found that it didn't like getting wet a lot...

Polar and others (inc Nike) sell running watches (w/ HR monitors) that use footpods. These have more functions yet still need calibration but will likely last longer. I have a Polar unit. Works great.

GPS - Works well outside and doesn't need to be calibrated. Will not work inside or under heavy tree cover, for obvious reasons. May take a short while to "find" satellites. Polar, Timex and Sunto offer GPS running watches but they use separate pods, unlike the Garmin, which is an all in one unit.
Click to view jggillette's profile Amateur 26 posts since
Jun 9, 2004
4. Apr 14, 2008 5:14 PM in response to: NotQuiteLikeTheWind
Re: Help me pick a distance training tool please
I left the reply about the differences between the 305 and 405. This is just an update. Amazon now has the 405 "in stock" and it's going for $350 with the heart monitor chest strap. They have the 305 for $217.50. I'd go with the 305 and save the $150.
Click to view raf66's profile Rookie 5 posts since
Jan 15, 2008
5. Apr 21, 2008 11:28 AM in response to: NotQuiteLikeTheWind
Re: Help me pick a distance training tool please
I picked up the Garmin 305 a couple of months ago and now I wonder what I ever did without it. I've never been in tree cover where I've lost satellite coverage and the distance measurement seems to be pretty spot on when I've compared it to the distance marks I've encountered during a race. And being able to get my per mile time during runs is an invaluable training tool. I was actually able to pick it up online for under $200 including shipping. And no, my last name is not Garmin. :D