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Apr 10, 2008 5:13 PM

Altimeter Computers


I do a lot of rides that involve climbing. I am looking for a bike computer that is accurate in gaging the amount I've climbed.

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1. Apr 19, 2008 10:47 PM in response to: brownwrap
Re: Altimeter Computers
Take a look at the Sigma BC 2006. Here in Germany it gets a very high review for its price and performance.
http://www.kingbarcelona.com/en/images/imagecache/240x180_sigma_bc2006.jpg
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2. Apr 22, 2008 4:38 PM in response to: brownwrap
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I like my polor 725. It is a little pricey but works well. Gives all the stats including altitude. I think it calculates altitude by air pressure changes. I think the GPS computers are more accurate but they will run $400+
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3. Apr 22, 2008 6:15 PM in response to: brownwrap
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I have a Garmin Edge305 which does that and much more. Check it out, prices vary so check around. Great device.
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5. Apr 22, 2008 6:41 PM in response to: brownwrap
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I have had the Edge305 for a few months and have had no problems, its been reliable and easy to use. Until the most recent 705 was released, I believe this was the top GPS unit for bicycles. It also has heart rate and cadence. Pretty cool.
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7. Apr 23, 2008 6:14 AM in response to: brownwrap
Polar 725i infrared
I have had the same problem in the past. I removed the software and reloaded and loaded the latest update and it seemed to have solved the problem. Make sure you have your IR data reader plugged in during the software loading. I know of one guy who did not know where the infrared eye was on the wrist unit so he had problems because he didn't arrange the watch and the IR reader to where they could see each other. The IR eye is on top above the watch screen if you look close you can see it. One other thing is that I noticed the heart rate monitor straps only last about 2 seasons. Picking up my heart rate on the wrist unit was getting harder and harder. I bought a new strap this season and no problems.
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8. Apr 23, 2008 9:29 PM in response to: paprouty
Polar 720i
I have used the Polar Cycle HRM/computer for several years. This year, however, is going to be the year that I finally give up on all the Polar products. I started with a Polar 710i several years ago. I had it two years. I had to send it and the chest strap back to the factory to get the battery changed. I had to do that every year about March. The monitor worked fine for the year, but when I started using it again in the spring after the snow was gone, it works for a couple weeks then goes dim and finally quits working. You couldn't change that battery in the monitor or chest strap yourself. When you call the Polar factory in New York, they say the usual turn around is a week, but they don't tell you that it depends on the amount of backlog they have in the factory. Guess what? They have a huge backlog around March and April for the very reason that I was sending mine back. Everyone else is having their batteries changed just like I am. It took three weeks to get the unit back. The second year, they emailed me and said that the unit had a difficulty that couldn't be fixed. I forgot now what the problem was, seems like it was the timer, but I don't remember for sure. I'm sure it was something that I didn't use. I do remember that. So they had a deal on an upgrade to the "New and Improved" 720i, that also had a "cool stainless case", so I upgraded. Next year the same story, send it back expecting 1 week turn around and getting 3 week turnaround. I am just so tired of having to do without my HRM/computer at the beginning of the season, that I am not even going to consider Polar products any more. I liked having all the functions and though it was difficult to learn how to use effectively, it did record information that was useful -- that is, when it worked. There is something between Boulder and Lyons that interferes with the wireless transmission. There are other places as well, but I ride that road enough that I can pick the spot and see it go stupid. When that happens, the device records max cadence at 195 and HR max at 230 and the recorded data that has any averaging is useless. I have been wanting to vent my frustration at Polar for some time. The problem is that I'm 60 and need the HRM. I'm going to Performance and get one that averages HR and use another cycle computer for the other functions and not try to get all the information in one unit again. Take a hike Polar, I'm done with you.
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9. Apr 24, 2008 10:03 AM in response to: posthocfallacy
Re: Polar 720i Maintance

Ya I understand completely. I never have had any luck working with Polar customer service. I get all the same interferances from time to time in the same areas like when we ride past NASA JSC. I change all the batteries myself, wrist unit and heart rate transmitter. I know they want you to send them back but thats just another example of industry trying to turn us Americans in to consumer cows who can't do anything but buy buy buy. Don't fall for it. We keep giving more and more control to otheres. Take some back and do it yourself DIY. Pay attention to not hurt the gasket. You will be fine. My polar came with extra gaskets for the heart rate transmitter. I do most of my bike maintance myself too, bottom brackets, cassetts, chains, wrap my own bars, change my cables and housing even change the bearings in my Mavic Heliums, freewheel body included. Same deal with Mavic they suck at customer service, but their wheels are pretty good if you can get a deal. Especially now the Heliums are closeouts and are selling for half the cost of what I bought mine for 2 years ago.

We all have a certain amount of mechanical apptitude we just need to develop it. It is liberating makes you feel confident that when the apocolypse comes and all the professional bike mechanics mysteriously disappear you'll be sitting pretty. Start small change some batteries, buy a chain tool etc.. When you become more confident buy the starter tool kit from Performance or Nashbar. You should already have a pro level bike stand if not get that first. It makes daily maintance like cleaning and washing your bike so much easier. Bike maintance is a stress reliever for me like gardening is for some people. Cycling itself I am sure you will agree the greatest stress reliever. **** that doesn't work is definetly the rain on that parade.

Good luck let me know about the next computer you get. Until then I may see you out there I'll be the flatlander gasping for O2 in the thin mountain air.

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10. Apr 29, 2008 12:01 PM in response to: paprouty
Re: Polar 720i Maintance
fyi i use the ERGOMO Power Meter and it works great . THe only thing it doesn't do is ride for you. It may even serve coffee
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11. Apr 29, 2008 12:06 PM in response to: brownwrap
Re: Altimeter Computers
I vote for the Garmin Edge 305 as well. Now that the 705 is out, the 305s are coming down in price. I got mine for less than $200 online.
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12. May 1, 2008 7:45 AM in response to: brownwrap
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I like my Garmin Edge 205. It works very well and is pretty accurate. It even offers a field to show how close in accuracy the altitude is. I found it on ebay for $120.
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13. May 3, 2008 10:02 PM in response to: Wink Mora
Re: Polar 720i Maintance

I was about to stand indignantly and respond vehemently that for $1500+ the thing should come with morning coffee every day, but after thinking about it, I chose the Polar 720i (originally the 710i before the 720 or 725 came out). The first one cost about $400 ($389, if I recall correctly), Then about $280 when the first one died and I upgraded, then about $260 when I upgraded to the 720 when the second 710 died. When you count the shipping to get the batteries replaced plus the time that I lost my duffel bag with the heart rate strap in it and had to buy another, I have spent over $1000 in the last 5 years with Polar trying to keep track of HR (heart rate), temperature, average speed and average cadence, and altitude. In light of those numbers, the ERGOMO doesn't sound so far out of reason. Actually, now that Polar has come out with the chest strap transmitter with self-replacable batteries (seems like they have been out for about two years now) that is not so bad, and if, like Paprouty, one replaces his own batteries in the HRM, maybe that value could be cut in half over the 5 years that I had have owned the Polar stuff. I could have had a Power Tap that is built into the rear wheel of your bike and gives you very accurate power readings. I have seen the unit not built into a wheel (which I could do myself) for around $800. With that and a fairly cheap HRM and cycle computer I could get all the stuff that I am currently getting (when it works) from the Polar. Hmmm, sounds like I am arguing for three things on my handlebar - power meter, HRM and cycle computer - that I get from a single Polar unit. Now I'm swinging back to the Polar, that does all that I want it to do (when it works, again) and records the ride in real time that one can download and analyze. I really wish the Polar company was more responsive so that I would not be so reluctant to continue using their products.

Somewhat related to this topic. My new full suspension moutain bike has a VDO wireless cycle computer. I chose it because it is one of the few wireless computers with cadence. (I really want cadence on my cycle computer!!!) Since the bike is fully suspended the shop said that a wired computer would not last long with the rear triangle moving all the time. My Polar 720i absolutely refuses to work with the VDO wireless unit. I got the new coded chest strap transmitter for the Polar unit, but it still doesn't work with the VDO. I'm wondering if the Garmin units or any of the other units mentioned in this thread would have problems with other wireless units on the same bike or even with another bike with a wireless unit in close proximity.

I do triathlons that have to be finished in 12 hours. I'm old enough and slow enough that I don't finish much under that limit. The Garmin units don't have sufficient battery life to last through the triathlon, much less through the 6-day tour of the North Rim of the Grand Canyon that I did last year. I wonder if the 705 would last through triathlons and/or the Grand Canyon. Most nights in the Grand Canyon, I had no access to electrical outlets for a battery charger.

I'm still looking for a replacement for the Polar 720i, given all the constraints that I have above. I took Paprouty's advise above and have replaced my own batteries, even thought the Polar people say you can't do it, so I have something that is working for now.

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14. May 3, 2008 10:08 PM in response to: markboz
Re: Altimeter Computers
The Garmins are fine if you are home every night, but you're not going to be doing any touring with the short battery life they have. Garmin has a unit that provides all the cycle functions, (plus cadence that I absolutely INSIST upon) plus HRM that is needed if you are over somewhere between 45 and 60 depending on whom you ask. If it weren't for the short battery life, I would have probably purchased on instead of upgrading my last Polar 720i.