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Click to view mlines109's profile Amateur 42 posts since
Jul 9, 2007

Sep 25, 2005 6:51 AM

high school xc running

This is my 2nd year runnning and in a senior. This year we got 2 new runners on our girls team. In Practices their alwasy way behind me or walking but when it comes to races they beat me by a lot, I dont get it? plus my times this year are much slower then last year when we have the same coach and do the same training as last year and im getting frustrated. Why is this can someone give me some advice?
Click to view xceric's profile Amateur 13 posts since
Jul 9, 2007
1. Sep 25, 2005 8:11 AM in response to: mlines109
maybe the reason that they beat you in each race is because they go into the race well rested but you go into each race exhausted from running hard every day of the week. as for your times this year, maybe you just lost too much base over the off season. maybe you should take a couple races off and just try to get your miles up. my college coach had me do that this year. we only run once a week and he had me take two weeks off because he thought i was losing my base. talk to your coach. and dont forget to taper a day or two before each race. and run an active recovery run the day after every race. that will keep you fresh.
Click to view rkarboviak's profile Pro 156 posts since
Jul 9, 2007
2. Sep 25, 2005 11:42 AM in response to: mlines109
What was your summer mileages like, and what other activities are you doing? As a XC coach for middle through high school, I'm faced with many multi-sport athletes who are in two sports (such as XC and soccer right now), or are in 2 or 3 consecutive season sports (like XC, basketball, then track). Right now I have 2 of my top boys who are also into hockey and are excellent at hockey, and they are training on a skating treadmill. I'm fortunate enough to train them at both sessions, since my full-time job is training athletes, and I'm their trainer for the hockey treadmill training sessions they do. I'm constantly trying to monitor everyone as best I can. If you are doing a lot of extra miles after practice, or you just simply running too hard, day in, day out, you may not be making the performance adaptions you are seeking. There's a reason you have easy days and hard days, lighter weeks and harder weeks. Your body needs variations in intensity and volume to adapt to them. I hope your coach understands this and has adjusted the volume/intensity of your practices and incorporated the volume/intensity of races into your practice schedule as well.

There could be other factors that are affecting your current performance, such as rest and recovery. Are you also doing some form of strength training to keep your strength up? This is a major concern from my standpoint as a coach and performance trainer. If you don't strength train and keep your strength levels up during the season (just 1 to 2 short sessions a week is all that's needed), you will lose strength and suffer in performances as a result, or even worse, become more susceptible to overuse injuries.

There could be many factors affecting your performance but these are just a few of the 'big ones' that affect most runners.

Rick Karboviak, CSCS
Total Trinity Training
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Jul 9, 2007
4. Sep 28, 2005 9:53 AM in response to: mlines109
I may be out on a limb here, but I've seen short mileage programs work when you train at the right intensity levels for your runs. If you run too slow on much longer-than-race-distance runs, you may not get much of a benefit from it, you may only maintain what you have. Also, the intensity of your speed workouts will help your body adapt well, too. If you go too hard, too fast, and end up slowing down too much in your speed workouts, you may not get those sought-after benefits, either. I'm one to think you don't have to over-distance your race distance by more than twice its length. If you run at the right times/intensity level for that 2x distance, it should offer a good recovery for you. It just baffles me how some HS teams run upwards of 60+ miles in a week just to get a 3.1 mile time down, when running faster and raising your lactate thresholds will help you hold on longer than just churning out mile after mile after mile with no main purpose in sight. Newer research is showing that VO2 maxes can improve with shorter & hard workouts, versus longer & slower runs. My take on that? Why run more than you need to, if the short & hard stuff gets as good gains or better than long & slow stuff? Short & Sweet, Hard & Fast, Smart & Strong....that's my take on it as a coach & sports performance trainer.

Rick Karboviak, CSCS
http://trinitytraining.bravehost.com
Click to view rodney800's profile Amateur 7 posts since
Aug 24, 2007
5. Aug 24, 2007 8:36 PM in response to: mlines109

i had the privelege of recieving some great advice from world 1500m champion abdi bile. race on the 2nd or 3rd day of your training cycle. any more you will be fatigued. off a rest day you are slightly less aerobically efficient. i like to follow a 2 week training cycle in which i have a gradual shift from mileage to speed. like a taper. i begin with a bigger total for my 2 weeks and slowely bring this back for the competition season. again like a taper. i build to a peak where everything follows these rules: intervals are shorter than race distance, faster than race pace and total more than my race distance. anything else is a recovery session. by this time i am gradually tapered. i have a rest day 2 days before, a VERY light run the day before. about 10minutes and the following day i race. works well. i spent some time living and training in kenya and this is how we trained.