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Paul mental toughness usually refers to the ability to tolerate/accept the pain involved in tough workouts or racing.
Alberto Salazar pushed so hard at Falmouth that he was given last rites and packed in ice after the race.
Steve Jones puked in a barrel beween reps in an interval workout, but kept hammering the reps.
The guys hanging with Bekele at the beginning of the last lap in an Olympic 5k 0r 10k. The pain was etched in
The football players running suicides today at the track, who were puking in the trash can afterwards, showed
Basically, when one part of your brain and your body is telling you to stop, and you refuse to back off.
Overcoming the suffering involved in pursuing relentless intensity.
Fred, thank you for those examples. At least it is clearer to me what the author meant when he wrote of "mental toughness". This has me confused, though: It seems that most everything I have read about training has taken a very analytic, systematic, even scientific approach. It seems there must be a balance struck somewhere. I guess it is the old question of: "Where does bravery become stupidity?" One of the lessons I seek to learn are what my limitations are. Another is what my potential is. These are the counter-forces that if integrated, can instruct and build.
Thanks for the videos Fred. Love that video. I train with a 30-34 y.o. who is the toughest mental competitor that I have ever raced and trained with. When he is about to explode he digs down and runs faster. When he does blow up; it's big time because he's given it his all.
This is one of the most fascinating parts of our sport. How far/fast can we get? How far/fast can we push ourselves?. How willing are we to be the best that we can be? Are we willing to run 1000-1200 miles in 18 weeks just to race 26.2? Or are we satisfied with just completing the course? I have more drive now at 54 than I did in high school and college but have reduced potential. But when I see masters running 1:08 1/2 marathons; I think why can't I do that? What do I need to change to be competitive with that guy? (How could I beat Fred in a mile race?);)
Mental toughness is natural to some but must be learned by others. I believe it can be learned by overcoming pain, tradition, low expectations, and just plain hard work. Will I ever be the best in the world? Nope, but I'll lace 'em up with anyone.
Well, I push myself harder than I should and give it 100% every time I go out. That's good enough for me. I'm huffing and puffing at the end of the race and giving it twice what some other runners are. I was the same way when I was 18. Mentally tough? I don't know about that. I just have a switch on my back that says "off" and "on".:p
Quote of the day: "We're not mental or nuthin'..."
-Wayne Campbell groveling in front of Alice Cooper-
Imgellin - we had a humorous discussion of this issue on another board. The question was: "How do you know you have "IT"? "It" is tough to define but sounds to me like you have "it".
ksrunr1 - ran 14 miles of hills tihs morning
ksrunr2 - good job ksrunr1
ksrunr1 - thanks ksrunr2; where is everyone else?
ksrunr2 - I dunno; probably with Ribs
Thanks for that KS. I talked to the top university distance runner today, and he said that he had seen lots of guys
puke in workouts. Anyway, my new training zones are slow, steady state, mentally tough and puke zone. If
my knee gets better I hope to make it into the puke zone next month.
Wednesday - 50 minute warmup, 10 minutes @ mentally tough., 2 hours of basketball.
". This has me confused, though: It seems that most everything I have read about training has taken a very analytic, systematic, even scientific approach."
Running isn't left brained it's right brained. Sure there is analysis even when you train by feel. If your body says that it doesn't
want to go hard on a given day, then you go easy.
Even Lydiard would do something like that. How far did you run? I don't know. What speed did you run at? Fast enough. When did
you stop? When I had enough.
I ran 9.3 miles today. My hip flexors were a little tight and I did not break any records, but those are to be expected, since I took monday off.
Did anyone else's speed decrease during the first winter that they ran? I do not believe that my body has had the chance to be truly warm while outside, since october. (I tend to dress a little heavy, too.) I hope this is something that my body can eventually acclimate itself too, but right now, it is a shock.
Hi everyone! I have been a lurker for a long time now, but felt impelled to join the discussion, hope you don't mind.
I guess an introduction is in order: my name is Simon, I live in Newmarket, just north of Toronto, been running 2 years and 6 months, just turned 58, so eligible as far as age goes! (I know some of you from RA, as well as here.)
I wanted to thank Fred for posting the great videos, and a previous one, many months ago, of Ryan Hall training at altitude, such fluid motion, beautiful to watch.
As my own runnning gradually progresses I am more and more impressed by some of the outstanding athletes in this group; in fact a bit intimidated-that's why I haveconfined most of my posts to the "newbies" area.Anyway, I hope I can contribute a little from time to time, thank you for all I have already learned from following the discussion.