Sierra, imagine you are that pack of African men and women, and you "know" you are going to win. The women allowed the tall American to lead and drafted after her. You could see how smoothly the winner was running. Poor Kara, and into a headwind too. But she is new at this distance. I thought the Americans were valiant and put it out there. Good for them! We have a lot to be proud of, two 3rd place finishes in each sex, way better than we have done in ages. But oh how my heart went out to them both. This performance was very encouraging for American marathoners. I loved watching the race today.
SimonR, more on our recent topic, a Lydiard observation from Letsrun, a poster named Nobby. Fred, you know him:
"When Lydiard first came to the US, most people were interval-trained. He told them that his runners did 100 miles a week of training. Some people tried it but, because they weren't as well-conditioned as his runners, did it slow (just to survive). They figured running this slow would not make you a fast competitor. So Lydiard training is no good. For decades, Lydiard had to fight against such thinking by telling them also that "Snell and Davies did 20X400 in 60 seconds or faster. How much speed to you need?"
Marathon conditioning, or aerobic base building phase, is merely prerequisit to more exacting training phases. Because his runners were so much stronger than others from all the miles that they ran, they could do much more faster or more race specific training than other runners. This is the whole principles of the Lydiard program that has been applied to other sports like rugby or kayaking--those who have developed their stamina can do more competition-specific training than others. While others might practice "passing of the rugby ball while running as fast as you can" 20 times, if you developed adequate stamina, you do that 40 times."
Fred made this same point the other day when I asked him about mechanics.
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