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1480 Views 5 Replies Latest reply: Jun 2, 2009 9:08 PM by Run Coach Robert RSS
vtsoxfan Rookie 2 posts since
May 28, 2009
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May 28, 2009 8:50 AM

too old for marathon pr?

 

Hello all,

 

 

I'm 34 years old and have run a dozen marathons. My PR is 3:01.49 and that was a good 9 years ago. I recently ran my first marathon in a year and a half and with a lot of distance but no pace or speed training (max 70 mi/wk) did a 3:19.46, felt very strong. My question is: is 34-35+ too old to PR in the marathon with appropriate training, or is it time to make the jump to ultras (50mi+)? Anyone have any experience with this? I don't have a coach or anything, just 2 decades of competitive running experience and 13 years of marathon experience.

 

 

Thank you very much!

 

 

  • Exphysman Rookie 4 posts since
    Apr 11, 2009
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    1. Jun 1, 2009 7:47 PM (in response to vtsoxfan)
    Re: too old for marathon pr?

     

    Hello there, Mr Im so old Im 34. I was there a few years ago, I m now in my late 30's.  I do understand your perceived limitation. But let me assure you when it comes to endurance capability, the limiting factors have nothing to do with your body's systems, chemically, physiologically, and their ability to adapt and improve to transport oxygen and allow you to run faster. This wont happen significantly until your late 40's but even then its more your abilty to recover than a breakdown in the heart, lung or skeletal muscles abilities.

     

     

     

     

     

    The real question is

     

     

    At this point with where your at in life, how much of a priority is it to set aside the time for training, recovery and nutrition to allow you to train with the time and intensity to progressively improve until your well under 3 hrs.

     

     

    I could personally coach you and lay out a plan, thats what I do for a living.  You have a couple options as I see it.

     

     

     

     

     

    1. Purchase of the well done marathoning self coach books on the market, much like many people have purchased Body for Life a few years ago to achieve fat loss and muscle gain. Then you follow it (a coach intervenes to tweak your program along the way).

     

     

    2.Hire a coach, even part time to have access to to bounce ideas off

     

     

     

     

     

    Either way,  You need to set a goal.

     

     

    Specific-  I want to be able to train this many days a week, this many minutes or I will choose these races along the way

     

     

    Measureable- Use testing along the way,  a max stress test or even regular anaerobic threshold or max aerobic power tests. Visit Dr. Phil maffetone and his website for his explanation on how many aspiring distance runners overtrain with too much intensity too often and are never willing to run slow for a long enough period of time to let your heart adapt.  

     

     

    Acheivable - I would sub 2 50 is in your range depending on your current health status, time constraints and how much this is a priority or just an interest..

     

     

     

     

     

    if you want to go over some specifics, then feel free or just emai me directly at eric_niles@gordian-health.com or just post back on here.

     

     

     

     

     

    By the way I was an average but good high school runner in upstate New york   435 mile, 945 2 mile   nothing to shout about but I was overworked from a PE football/track coach who beat us into submission with acid producing workouts.  I progressed through college, sub 15 min 5k, 31 and change 10k good cross country runner. But not until I learned to go slow and use my freaking heart rate monitor did I blow those times away and I did much less anaerobic in the next few years and finally ran

     

     

    14:20 5k, 30 min 10 k and 2;18 marathon.

     

     

    And although I thrived on high milage my efforts were all controlled.

     

     

     

     

     

    I am good at coaching people so feel free to get in touch. I quit my competetive days in my late 20's and enjoy a healthy balance of fitness now but can look at endurance training from an outside the box view to assess all the stressors and responsibilities you may have in life which all effect your  ability to recover and train. 

     

     

    Eric Niles

     

     

    M.S clinical exercise physiology

     

     

    Health coach, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee

     

     

  • Run Coach Robert Legend 782 posts since
    Jan 7, 2009
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    2. Jun 1, 2009 9:48 PM (in response to vtsoxfan)
    Re: too old for marathon pr?

     

    At 34, you are definitely too old to PR. In fact, I suggest hanging up the running shoes.

     

     

    Okay, just kidding.  But as long as we are doing shameless plugs, I could train you to run the marathon sub 2:49.  

     

     





    Robert Martin

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  • bellsway Legend 343 posts since
    Jan 28, 2009
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    3. Jun 2, 2009 5:03 AM (in response to vtsoxfan)
    Re: too old for marathon pr?

    Hey Sox guy!  I'm a trainer too and I live only 30 min. from Fenway HA HA HA!  No commercial here, I love my first time runners, however,  I think what you should read from all of the advice we trainers want to give you  is that it is never too late when you are in your 30s.  For that matter, I have a kids almost  your age and this year I beat a 10 year old PR in a 30K race and another PR equally old in a 5 miler.  I'm not training harder.  I'm training smarter.  As one trainer said, sit down and realistically  think about your goals and decided how much time you have to actually train.  Find yourself a program and/or trainer who you feel comfortable with that fits your lifestyle and time constraints.  At 34 your physiology should not inhibit your succes, life in general is what tends to get in the way.  Let us know how you make out.  Good Luck!





    Plan your run and then run your plan.

  • Run Coach Robert Legend 782 posts since
    Jan 7, 2009
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    5. Jun 2, 2009 9:08 PM (in response to vtsoxfan)
    Re: too old for marathon pr?

    Nothing wrong with being a girl ....or a Red Sox fan!





    Robert Martin

    NFPT Certified Personal Trainer

    NFPT Endurance Specialist

    RRCA Running Coach

    SPINNING Instructor

    GRAVITY Personal Training Instructor

    GRAVITY Group Instructor

    Power Plate Level II Instructor

    2010 & 2011 Team Aquaphor Sponsored Athlete

    Gatorade G Series PRO Lead Ambassador, San Diego

    http://www.hardcoretrainingsystems.com

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