Jul 15, 2009 1:29 PM
Pain down my inner thigh
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I presently have pain on the inside of my upper leg, from inner thigh
nearly to my knee. Every time I heel strike (even when not running) my
leg feels like it has a metal rod in that area instead of normal fluid
muscle and ligament/tendons. I called my Physical Therapist and he said
(over the phone) it sounded like a groin strain / groin pull, also
called an adductor strain. When I saw him in person, however, he wasn't convinced anymore. Now he suspects nerves, and therefore possibly a back issue? The only thing that has helped is changing from (work) heels to flats.
Has anyone else has had the sensation of having a tight rod from groin to knee on the inner thigh? I trust other runners above all else, CAN ANYONE HELP?
Thanks beforehand for any thoughts or help!I I HAVEN'T RUN FOR WEEKS! :O
Lady Phoenix
“To overcome difficulties is to experience the full delight of existence.” - Arthur Schopenhauer
go see an orthopedic/sports medicine doc.... I like DO-trained docs because they could possibly manipulate whatever it is. Totally sounds like a pinched nerve somewhere, be it in your back or a muscle compressing it. (The front of your thigh is supplied by the Femoral nerve. Look that up and see if it describes your pain)
good luck
Dear Corkienee;
You had this one spot on. Since I was already seeingmy PT, he saw me again and brought in a second opinion. They both think/agree it is the Femoral Nerve. They are going to look back at an old lower lumbar MRI and have the DO look as well, but it seems like I test positive for L2 and L5 (severe weakness). I am just not sure how to deal with this, as I have never dealt with a nerve issue, only muschle, tendon and ligament. This is a totoally new world, and I don't know what to do to "treat" myself, or even if I can. I hate sitting back while someone else treats me... and it doesn't seem like they are sure what treatment will be used...
Any thoughts?
THANKS ![]()
LadyPhoenix
Lady Phoenix
“To overcome difficulties is to experience the full delight of existence.” - Arthur Schopenhauer
In my opinion you should go see an orthopedic surgeon. I am no doc, but I dealt with similar leg issues for 4 yrs. before an orthopedic surgeon figured it out. I had a torn hip labrum with a lesion on my femor. I had surgery 5 weeks ago and the pain I had in my groin has subsided dramatically. Before the surgery I went to p.t. for 1 yr, chiropractic for 1 yr. and tried other fixes to no avail. Most of the time when ppl have pain in the groin its because the groin is having to compensate for the hip not working properly, at least thats what I've been told by arguably the best orthopedic surgeon in the world (Marc Philippon and Leslie Vidal). Well theres my two cents, I hope it helps. P.s my pain started in my groin and felt the way you are describing.
Good luck!
Hi bikerskiierboarder!
I soooooo understand your pain, and everything you had to go through to get diagnosed (year of this, year of that). I was lucky, as well as being a total b**ch (beacuse I was in SO much pain) and simply pushed and pushed until someone figured out I had a torn labrum. My initial injury was about a year ago (August 08) and I had surgery on my labrum this past February. It seems, however, that they did not get all of the problem, as THIS pain has arisen since... I personally think it was there with the initial injury but had time to "relax" during the surgery recovery.
Can you tell me more about the lesion on your femur? How and why did that happen? Was that related to the femoral nerve? And if so, how did they deal with that?
Thank you for this information!
Lady Phoenix
“To overcome difficulties is to experience the full delight of existence.” - Arthur Schopenhauer
Wow, I'm sorry your going through this junk! I'll keep my mouth shut about the docs'!
Dr. phillipon told me he thinks that some ppl who are highly athletic as a child tend to develop these extra bone growths (cam lesions) and I was one of the lucky few. So the lesion on my femur was grinding into my labrum causing impingment and tearing the labrum as well. A lesion can be detected from a properly taken x-ray. So at the time of surgery dr. vidal went in and shaved the lesion off and repaired the labrum as well did a release of the psoas muscle.
As far as the femoral nerve I don't know anything about it, but I will ask her when I go in to see her in a few days. I am 6 weeks post op and doing well with at this point no pain other than what is to be expected. My adducter magnus is still tight and causes a little bit of pain, but supposedly as the hip gets stronger the adducter will begin to release. Maybe your adducter is just really really tight and inflamed because it is doing more work, because your hip is not functioning 100%. I sure hope you get better soon.
How did you hurt yourself initially? How did you tear your labrum? Who was your surgeon?
cheers
Believe it or not, it was an overuse thing - no injury really... I just am a crazy runner girl who doesn't know when to stop... Then again, I may have had some sort of impingement beforehand, and then the labrum tear came after - I don't know. And it's hard to remember details at this point. I just know there was no trauma per se.
So you had the labrum surgery recently? Wasit all laproscopic? My recovery from that was MIRACULOUSLY fast... 3 days of post-op ****, and then I was walking in a week, biking in two weeks and running about a month post-op... But itmay be vasstly different for you with what she did.
My Doc was Dr. Mayo Noerdlinger out of Portsmouth NH and York ME, and I had surgery at York hospital. He is an amazing shoulder and hip joint surgeon.... very good with the labral tears.
My adductors were definately VERY tight.... they thought (originally) that this groin/inner thigh pain was a "groin strain" but I didn't buy it, as all the reasearch I did made it sound like there would be pain with any movement, not just heel strike and toe off. And I can do the recumbent bike 100% pain free; it's not weight bearing. So I was suspicious, and I'm glad for it. Yeah for the internet..... sometimes.I have been doing a LOT of glute and abductor work as PT to strengthen the hip joint, and now on to core...
Hope to hear more soon! Please tell me about your surgery modality; I would love to hear.
Lady Phoenix
“To overcome difficulties is to experience the full delight of existence.” - Arthur Schopenhauer
I can't believe how fast you were up and running again! Its been 6 weeks since my surgery and I can only dream of running again. I was on 2 crutches for 2 weeks and then 1 crutch for 1 week, and I was in excellent shape before the surgery. She had me on the bike 3 days after my surgery and said I need to be on it everyday there after to help with recovery.
As far as the surgery is concerned she went in with her scope and shaved the lesion off my femur, released my psoas, and repaired my labrum. They are telling me the reason I am not as far a long as most ppl would be after hip surgery is because she shaved off so much bone, oh and because the psoas was released (cut). My labrum was fraying, and not torn so I suppose that helped my situation. So I've been doing a lot of sitting around, some cycling and a little bit of golf. I can't wait to get back out there and start really pushing it again. Its been mentally tough dealing with all this garbage for 4 1/2 yrs.
It sounds like you know more about all this stuff then your p.t, whats up with that? Have you figured out whats going on with your inner thigh? Is it the same, better, or worse? I hope your getting better and I wish you the best so you can hit the roads or trails hard again soon!
au revoir
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