Sep 25, 2009 9:23 PM
Need help with knee pain, don't know for sure what it is...
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Hey guys, need member here, and have a question. First a little background. I am 28, 5'11" and about 215lbs. I started running for two reasons, 1 to get healthy, and 2 because i am considering the armed forces. I still have plenty of time before i could be sent off for basic, so that is why I am starting now.
I started my running about 4 weeks ago. I started out with a mixture of running and walking a mile. My knee pain didn't start untill one day I was out at my parents house and ran out there. Their neighborhood has a fairly steep hill going down the drive way then another hill back up, then the rest is flat. I did this day aprox. a week after i started my running. I didn't run down the hills (going or coming back), but I did partially jogged up the hill. Just to help with confustion, when i say run, I never ran at a fast pace, it was more of a jog... During this run, I didn't encounter any knee pain during or after the run. the pain didn't start untill the next night, I went running again. Again, this was a combination of running for about 2 minutes and walking about 2 minutes (the time varied, as it was I would walk after i couldn't take it any more breathing wise, and when i caught my breath, i would run again.) The pain wasn't a very harsh pain, it seems more like muscle pain that would go away. I took this as a warning not to run the next night (which was monday). I went to run again tuesday, but every time i took a step running, it was a sharp pain, but i could walk fine. That has been 2 weeks ago This comming tuesday. I haven't run or walked since.
now, to discribe the location of the pain. This is on both knees, though the left knee is worse than the other. The pain is slightly on the inside of the need, but not around the side, and at the bottom of the joint, more on the top of the bone (forgive me, i forget my human phys terms, but the shin bone). all last week it was fairly hard on my knees even during work, just to get off a forklift i had to ease myself down to prevent pain. This week the pain has subsided considerabely, but i still feel some pain going down steps, and if i even try to run i feel it on both knees.
ok, so enough of the back ground, if there is any questions to explain more detail, i will be glad to add more, but to my questions. As of this moment, I really can't visit a Dr. (wife was laid off), does anyone have any idea what this could be and how to remidy it???? I have been iceing both knees for 15 mins then putting a heat pack for 15 mins and swaping them out for about an hour or 2 a night, plus i have been taking ibprofin every 4 to 6 hours (it was about the only way to get through last week at all).
I am very anxious to get back out and run. Any help would be great guys.
Knee pain is often a result of an unleveld pelvis. Remember pain is a symptom and look elsewhere for tight, hard, tender locations anywhere else in the body. You can use a small 4" inflatable ball on any location on your body that is tight or sore and allow your body weight to sink in to provide a release of the tissue. Minimum time to hold is at least 120 seconds and often the longer the better. If you have any scars you can use the ball there too. Stretches for your pelvis can be helpful too. Again hold for at least 120 seconds.You can check out youtube for videos that show stretches and exercises to help knee pain.
It`s worth visiting a doctor to make sure you haven`t done any serious damage it`s likely just imflamed from too much too soon and the rest - ice - pain killer route will resolve the problem
In the meantime 1. go to a specialist running store and get fited to running shoes - the initial injury may be due to the wrong shoes
2. Take a look at the couch to 5k plan - it`s under the training link on this site - this will give you a structered plan to build up to running 3 mileswith a lower riak ofover use injuries
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I will definately look into getting running shoes and the c25k looks like i might need to start over on that plan, and will start following it once i am running again. my main question though is my injury. I have been iceing and taking ibprofin for the past two weeks, and it is better to some extent, but i'm not able to start running again. Am i expecting too much to think i would be better by now, or is it normal to still be having this pain.
as for pain else where i haven't noticed any other type of pain else where except for the soreness in my calfs, but that was only when i first started to run, since i haven't run in 2 weeks that soreness has sense gone away.
I recommend you continue icing and increase your stretching. Quads, hamstrings, calves, inner and outer thigh, hip flexors (front of your hip) and lower back. Also, check with a doctor first, Glucosamine Chondroitin combination supplement is great for joint and cartilage health. I am a Personal Trainer and the 10 years of high impact aerobics classes I taught was not kind to my knees. I only recently took up running outdoors and Glucosamine/Chondroitin has helped me tremendously. Good luck. Keep moving.
can you point me in a direction of streching guides that would help with this???
by the way, went to the local athletic store. they watched me walk in several different shoes and recomended these shoes. http://www.amazon.com/ASICS-GT-2140-Running-Lightning-Electric/dp/B001KN7GXU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=shoes&qid=1253980476&sr=1-1 what do you think???
2 weeks is quite a rest - generally rest and ice woud have worked by now if it were going to - really - you should have a doctor check you out
NYC Marathon Nov 1 2009 - 4:03:13 ( 9:17 mm )
NYC Half Marathon Aug 16 2009 - 1:55:38 ( 8:49 mm )
1 mile - 7:07 10K - 52:58 ( 8:32 mm)
4 mile - 31:35 ( 7:53 mm) 8K - 42:28 ( 8:32 mm)
15K - 1:22:02 ( 8:49 mm)
Find the Half Marathon Team on FACEBOOK
I am a 55 yo triathlete who just started running last August. Breifly, I was misdiagnosed as a teenager and told I would never be able to run distance without knee pain because of the shape of my knees. Last August I went to a knee orthopedist who told me that was all BS. All I need was to do was knee strengthing excersizes. I have done them for a year now and can run with litle or no pain.
1st) shoes are critical. Get fitted with the best shoes you can afford.
2nd) strengthen the muscles behind the patela. Put a rolled up towel under your knee and press down. Do at least 3 sets of 20 everyday. It takes about a month before you see any real improvement. But there is improvement - just slow.
3rd) strenthen the muscles that hold the knee straight. On a leg press at the gym push one foot at a time a weight that is heavy but not too heavy. I use 120 lbs. Push with your foot straight a set. Push with your foot turned out about 30 degrees from perpendicular one set. Push with your foot turned in about the same amount for a set. Do both feet. I do sets of 16 14 and 12. Your knee will hurt abit when you are doing the excersize, thus be careful of the amount of weight. Better lighter than heavier, Do the excersizes no more than two or three times a week. It takes about 2 to 4 weeks to see how you have improved. If it hurts alot STOP. Better to do a smaller amount than overdo it.
I have done those excersizes for just over a year. As a result I run and like to do so (somthing I never imagined I would like). Today I ran a 10k. I was 9th out of 23 in my age group. Last week I ran a 10k. Tomorrow, I run a 5k.
4th) When you can afford it see a knee orthopedist. Only a knowledgable physician can tell if it is more than muscles that are causing your pain.
Good luck.
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