Dec 12, 2009 11:03 AM
Leg Strength
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What would you say is the best way to gain leg strength for the hills on the bike section of a triathlon. I can do the distance. I am riding 80-100 miles a week but struggle at getting up the hills. I want to complete a 70.3 next year and conditions permitting i would like to average 21mph on the bike section.
what would you guys suggest is the best way to go about doing this?
Jason Mellet
Im racing my first full ironman in may 2011. I am raising money for alzheimer's whilst im training for it. You can find out more in my blog on my Facebook page.
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The keys to bike improvement is to do a lot of intervals.You need to raise your ftp or watts that you can sustain. Intervals will do it. Try this warmup 15 minutes then do some on leg drills at 30 seconds each leg for 3 reps each leg spin for 1 minute - repeat. 9 sets of 90 seconds (big front middle rear gear) as hard as you can go. 90 seconds rest. Repeat 9 times. For the 10th go 3 minutes. Cool down 15 minutes. If this is easy then increase the duration of each interval by 30 second increments - same for the rest period. You should be going very hard.
The other side to climbing is weight. Lose some. Between more FTP and weight loss you will be able to hang with those guys in a few months.
Hi Jason,
Do you have a course profile for the hills? Do you know what type they are - rollers, long gradual grade, short & steep?
Best thing to get stronger - ride hills. What's the riding like in your area?
On topic:
http://www.active.com/cycling/Articles/Climbing_hills_can_be_as_easy_as_mind_over_muscle.htm
http://www.active.com/cycling/Articles/Preparing_for_a_Hilly_Century.htm
http://www.trainright.com/articles.asp?uid=4289&p=4284
http://www.bicycling.com/article/0,6610,s1-2-404-16105-1-P,00.html
http://community.active.com/thread/50472 stand vs. sit on hills
From Bicycling magazine's 900 all-time best tips p. 26: tips for climbing:
- relax your shoulders, keep elbows bent, light grip, stay seated-stand when can't generate enough power or on long climbs to stretch muscles.
- when do stand move like a cat, rise smoothly from the saddle.
Look at the bike course profile for the 70.3 event and see if you can find a similar course/section to train on.
I'm excited to follow your progress! Thanks for sharing your training experiences/questions here.
Sara
Sara Cox Landolt
http://www.ironmakeover.blogspot.com/
thanks for the advice, if you read my blog you will see that my recent interval training session with two much faster riders is the reason for this post. we did a 30 mile ride through north dallas which is filled with traffic lights and rolling hills. excellent interval training. we did the 30 miles in 1:30:15 and averaged 19mph.
i will probably keep riding with them every saturday morning. thanks to my wife and new daughter as they are very supportive of my triathlon training. i would like to know what is the best kind of leg workout to do at the gym. I am currently going to a physio-therapist and working on stability in my knees and ankles but am interested in figuring out what is the best gym workout to gain strength.
i will definitely be doing intervals and try not to get out of the saddle and will concentrate on the tips you have already given me.
Jason Mellet
Im racing my first full ironman in may 2011. I am raising money for alzheimer's whilst im training for it. You can find out more in my blog on my Facebook page.
http://tinyurl.com/2e8sazl
Here is my Alzheimer's donatation page.
Hi Jason,
I was just on your blog - my hubby flies up and down the hills too, this spring I think he was 45+mph, depends on the hill I guess!
I thought this Joe Friel post was good on pedaling drills. You have to be an efficient pedaler in order to transfer the power you're hoping for. And pedaling isn't easy!
http://www.trainingbible.com/joesblog/2009/12/pedaling-drills.html
:-) Sarahttp://jasonmellet.blogspot.com
Sara Cox Landolt
http://www.ironmakeover.blogspot.com/
Hey Jason and everyone. Greetings from Toronto Canada. I just finished instructing a 6AM indoor cycling class, 7 brave participants.. Despite the differences in skill levels I am following a simple periodized approach. This morning after 15 minute warm I did 4 hills, a 10 minute riser (like riding into Lake Placid) with a 1 minute bonus all out "show me what ya got" at the end, total 11 mnutes, 3 minutes rests and hydrate, followed by an 8 minute and 2 X 6 minute hills. After completion of the main set I did 15 minutes of stretching and 3 sets of 100s a key pilates core strengthener. I hope this helps. If you cn locate a multirider Computrainer centre you would have some un with like minded geeks. I am instructing off of the bike as my C2 fracture heals 3.5 months after the crash. PS My bike is with a forensic engineer to determine the cause of the crash. I will be posting details and product info when I am certain. DS
Weightlifting per se is a waste of time for biking. You already have plenty of physical strength. The issue is applying the power in an effective efficient manner. Do the intervals to increase you watts and to raise your FTP values. Doing this will allow you to ride faster longer. I followed a program like this and went from a 20mph average for a 7.3 mile hilly time trial course near my home to 22.2 mph in one winter season. Forget the weights except to rehab your knee..
thanks guys, im going to start taking my hill training very seriously from now onwards as its an area i dont have any confidence. my training at the moment consists of 1 long ride a week of 40 to 56 miles and then my interval session on saturday mornings which will be 30 miles. im still recovering from my knee injury so am very limited in my running and get into the pool twice a week as well. I do have a trainer at home and try to get onto that once a week as well to work on 1 leg drills etc.
hopefully by next season when the 70.3 comes i will be able to reach my goals
Jason Mellet
Im racing my first full ironman in may 2011. I am raising money for alzheimer's whilst im training for it. You can find out more in my blog on my Facebook page.
http://tinyurl.com/2e8sazl
Here is my Alzheimer's donatation page.
Good advise folks. Keep those workouts spread out by a day or more try to get in 3. You are looking for your threshold max (HR or watts) and then you will push it throughout the interval. Only exceed max for short periods 30 seconds. T Max will increase without lactic acid over time. Read about T Max intervals. Never undervalue the power of rest. If the knee hurts slow down. Look for bio mecanical deficiencies like pronation and or seat height if the knee pain persists. There is no sense in going hard if you hurt yourself and cannot ride or run after. Do you agree MW?
not to worry, the knee pain only happens in my running, i had an MRI and its actually an ACL sprain which i injured due to bumping up my mileage to quickly. it doesnt give me any problems when i cycle.
Jason Mellet
Im racing my first full ironman in may 2011. I am raising money for alzheimer's whilst im training for it. You can find out more in my blog on my Facebook page.
http://tinyurl.com/2e8sazl
Here is my Alzheimer's donatation page.
Cheers Mate,
As you train, you still want to keep the muscle you have. To keep it from breaking down, I am of the opinion that you continue to lift weights. Keep the reps in the 25 to 30 range and go as heavy as your PERFECT "form" will allow. You must keep the weight on the muscles you are trying to fatigue to 1)prevent injury 2)get the desired result. If you have a partner, this would be optimum as it would help you get past "failure". I suggest 4 sets of deep squats with little or no weight (30 reps from just below parallel to extension). Hamstring curls 4 sets (10 full range , 10 halfway down , 10 alternating full/half = 30 reps per set). Leg Press 4-6 sets (set combo as hamstring curls). Every other day: calve raises, donkey (hips bent simulating a bike in the aeros) and standing (simulating out of the saddle) 30 reps 6 sets. I have incorporated the routine and like the results, just cut it out a month before your event/comp. ENJOY!!
thanks, that sounds like a good , do-able routine
Jason Mellet
Im racing my first full ironman in may 2011. I am raising money for alzheimer's whilst im training for it. You can find out more in my blog on my Facebook page.
http://tinyurl.com/2e8sazl
Here is my Alzheimer's donatation page.
Good thread, now all I have to do is get this broken C2 to heal and I can get back out there with you guys. OH YA must replace my SEVEN Cycles bike and the $2,500. carbon wheels that I went down riding.
Oooooouch! I feel your pain. Six weeks ago I was T-boned obliterating my Specialied S-Works Tarmac w/ Mavies AND incuring compression fx to neck and two separate tears to my rotator cuff.
Oh yea no word from his isurance as of yet.......Bye-Bye $5,500. I am now relegated to my Frankenbike built with leftovers, maiden voyage today.
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