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saschii74 Rookie 4 posts since
Feb 2, 2010
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Feb 4, 2010 8:34 AM

Please help. Arch pain with new running shoes. Normal?

I have a question. My wife and I are completely new to the running sport. We are doing the 5K training app on our iPhone to, hopefully, run our first 5K in a couple of weeks (month?). I’m quite heavy so the running is actually a challenge for me. But surprise, surprise….I really enjoy it. (That might also has to do with living in NYC and be able to run in Central Park which is just fantastic). Anywho…after my knees started to hurt real bad I decided to get me some new shoes fitted. I bought some “Brooks Beast”, which are “motion control” shoes with an arch support, and ran 3 times…2 miles in them this week. The knee pain is completely gone but now my arches are on fire every time I run. I have the stamina to run longer but I can’t because my arches hurt so bad after a mile. Might this be the result of getting support now where I hadn’t any support before and I just have to get used to it? Break in the shoes? Or should I return the shoes and try another pair?

 

Thanks for your help.

Saschii

  • unshodrunner Rookie 7 posts since
    Jan 31, 2010

    No my friend, returning the shoes will do no good. You have gotten Plantar Fasciitis...  You can read more on it on my blog here: http://www.unshodrunner.com/category/barefoot-running-unshod-running-articles/

    I wrote one about it just last week as I have had several people write asking what that stabbing pain in the arch is.. The best way to overcome is to stretch out the calf muscle and achilles... Stretch Stretch Stretch.. Also, you can tape your foot as well. I will post a taping article on the site as well..

    ~Unshod Runner





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  • unshodrunner Rookie 7 posts since
    Jan 31, 2010

    Sorry mate.. here is the direct link to the article.. Also put in a video of a good tapeup job...

    http://www.unshodrunner.com/2010/01/28/plantar-fasciitis-another-reason-i-barefoot-unshod/

    ~Unshod Runner





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  • unshodrunner Rookie 7 posts since
    Jan 31, 2010

    Just an idea.. Jog a mile on an indoor track without your shoes on. Someplace soft.. See if the "burning arch" is still there...





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  • Run Coach Robert Legend 782 posts since
    Jan 7, 2009

    unshodrunner wrote:

     

    No my friend, returning the shoes will do no good. You have gotten Plantar Fasciitis...  You can read more on it on my blog here: http://www.unshodrunner.com/category/barefoot-running-unshod-running-articles/

    I wrote one about it just last week as I have had several people write asking what that stabbing pain in the arch is.. The best way to overcome is to stretch out the calf muscle and achilles... Stretch Stretch Stretch.. Also, you can tape your foot as well. I will post a taping article on the site as well..

    ~Unshod Runner

    This kind of quackery is dangerous. If you are not an MD, specializing in podiatry, and have not actually examined the patient, you should not make a diagnosis. Offer suggestions only.





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  • Run Coach Robert Legend 782 posts since
    Jan 7, 2009

    If it feels like the shoes, return them. Before leaving with a new pair try them out.





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  • unshodrunner Rookie 7 posts since
    Jan 31, 2010

    LOL.. Quackery... Good one..

    http://www.americaspodiatrist.com/2009/07/is-running-barefoot-the-answer-to-runners-foot-ankle-and-knee-problems/

    Obviously you have not been keeping up with the times my friend... 5 years ago, we were looked at as wierdos.. I used to run in shoes and found it made my body dumb and in pain... Maybe I could suggest a few links for you to do some study up on benefits of barefooting? I am not saying to go out and do it, but just building up the natural strength of ones feet... Being a trainer you should understand that little by little building up ones own strength and not relying on outside sources is best overall..
    http://sportsci.org/jour/0103/mw.htm

     

    "Furthermore,  running-related chronic injuries to bone and connective tissue in the legs are rare in developing countries, where most people are habitually barefooted (Robbins and Hanna, 1987)."





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  • Run Coach Robert Legend 782 posts since
    Jan 7, 2009

    unshodrunner wrote:

     

    LOL.. Quackery... Good one..

    http://www.americaspodiatrist.com/2009/07/is-running-barefoot-the-answer-to-runners-foot-ankle-and-knee-problems/

    Obviously you have not been keeping up with the times my friend... 5 years ago, we were looked at as wierdos.. I used to run in shoes and found it made my body dumb and in pain... Maybe I could suggest a few links for you to do some study up on benefits of barefooting? I am not saying to go out and do it, but just building up the natural strength of ones feet... Being a trainer you should understand that little by little building up ones own strength and not relying on outside sources is best overall..
    http://sportsci.org/jour/0103/mw.htm

    "Furthermore,  running-related chronic injuries to bone and connective tissue in the legs are rare in developing countries, where most people are habitually barefooted (Robbins and Hanna, 1987)."

    My reference to quackery has nothing to do with barefoot running. You made a definite diagnosis of a problem with little data and knowledge of the subject person. Even if you are qualified to make a diagnosis, you should not do so without a physical examination.






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  • Eric H. Doss Amateur 7 posts since
    Nov 2, 2009

    Hello Saschii,

     

    Congrats on making a decision to start running.  I hate to hear that you are experiencing some arch pain.

     

    I experienced similiar pain in a new pair of shoes when I first started running.  I visited a local sports medicine practice, they put me on a treadmill and observed my gait.  The first part of my problem is that I'm a really bad overpronator and the pain I experienced was plantar fasciitis.  I switched to a pair of stability shoes, tossed in some SuperFeet insoles, and haven't looked back.  I regularly run 10-15 miles without pain.

     

    The second part of my problem was failure to stretch.  The folks at the sports med. place gave me some specific stretches and exercises to do to solve the problem.  It worked well for me, I'm pain free and have been for a while now.

     

    However, what I just told you is what caused my arch pain, not what is causing your own.  You absolutely have to see someone who can disagnose your condition and recommend treatment options.  If you do have PF and you leave it untreated, it could lead to cotizone shots, surgery, or such extreme foot pain that you'd have to stop running.

     

    Most dedicated running stores could help you, but since you're pain seems pretty severe, I'd visit a sports medicine practice and go from there.

     

    Good luck with your new sport and relax, if you catch the problem this early and correct it, there is a really good chance you can eliminate all the pain you're experiencing.

     

    Cheers,

     

    Eric





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  • lenzlaw Community Moderator 10,265 posts since
    Jan 18, 2008

    I agree that returning the shoes may be in order, and trying a different model.  Make sure to do some running around the store before you leave.  I've had a couple pairs of shoes where the arch in the shoe just hit my foot wrong and caused pain.  PF symptoms usually start toward the heel, because that's where the damage is.

     

    Len





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  • lenzlaw Community Moderator 10,265 posts since
    Jan 18, 2008

    unshodrunner wrote:

     

    LOL.. Quackery... Good one..

    http://www.americaspodiatrist.com/2009/07/is-running-barefoot-the-answer-to-runners-foot-ankle-and-knee-problems/

    Obviously you have not been keeping up with the times my friend... 5 years ago, we were looked at as wierdos.. I used to run in shoes and found it made my body dumb and in pain... Maybe I could suggest a few links for you to do some study up on benefits of barefooting? I am not saying to go out and do it, but just building up the natural strength of ones feet... Being a trainer you should understand that little by little building up ones own strength and not relying on outside sources is best overall..
    http://sportsci.org/jour/0103/mw.htm

     

    "Furthermore,  running-related chronic injuries to bone and connective tissue in the legs are rare in developing countries, where most people are habitually barefooted (Robbins and Hanna, 1987)."

     

    There has been a lot of discussion of barefoot/minimalist running in the forums here.  It's nothing new.  And we are familiar with the research, thank you.  You might consider browsing, though you'll have to go back quite a while to see all of it.

     

    Len





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  • Ezrida Amateur 25 posts since
    Feb 1, 2010

    Hi

    I have plantar fasciitis myself for a few months now. I am also running and it took me long time to find the right shoes and the right pace. I have two things to tell you from my painful experience:

    1.     Take it easy - don't let your mind run more than your body can take. Find the right pace for your body or the injuries will follow. I did this mistake myself and I have to rest now.

    2.     Get a professional diagnosis before you spend more money and effort. Plantar fasciitis will usually hurt you with the first few steps in the morning. If you change your shoes and the pain will stop so it is not plantar fasciitis. If you do have Plantar fasciitis then this website will be a great help for you :

    http://www.plantar-fasciitis-elrofeet.com

    Take care & Good luck

  • TRex Runner Pro 64 posts since
    Jan 11, 2010

    Have you thought about using different insoles in the shoe? Just pop out the one that is in the shoe, throw in one with some arch support and it may change the way it feels on your feet. I have had to do that on a few shoes I have had.

     

    Eric





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