Fair enough, lenzlaw, but then, by your own aknowledgement, calling a marathon a "marathon" is just as much a stretch for the same reason, but that name seems to have taken hold. 21K is ok, but it's just as meaningless to non-runners as "Pikermi" in that they still have to ask "how far is that really" (in miles)....at least for us Americans who use miles and not KM. And yes, we probably are trying to make "something" out of "nothing"...that's what the creative process is all about...:)
In triathlon, you get to say you completed an "Olympic Distance Triathlon", rather than saying you completed a "1/4 Ironman". That sounds so much better.
What I don't like about the term Half-Marathon is that it gets interuppted as "half a marathon". It is not "half a marathon". It is a full half-marathon.
So I'm open to a new name.
How about a Harathon? A Marflathon? A Freaking-Long-Way? A Len? ( I think Len needs something named after him he's earned it)
Seems to me the offending word is "half". So let's get rid of the word "half". No more half a cup, no more half mile, etc,etc. So let's get rid of the word "half". And while we're at it, I guess we need to get rid of "one fourth", "one eighth", etc. I'm obviously saying this in jest. Why don't we find something better to do with our time? The English language already is cluttered enough with new words that have replaced the old words that offended a few over-sensitive people.
Hmmmm...an interesting comment...frankly, I'm not sure why you would waste your time making snide comments on forums. Certainly you can find a better way to spend your time. Nobody here is being "over-sensitive" about the word "half". This is merely a group of like-minded runners who are having a little fun with a new way to describe a race distance that they particularly enjoy. Nothing more. I would much rather spend my time with a fun group of people like that, pursuing an admittedly "silly and unimportant in the whole scheme of things" cause, then spend my time criticizing those who are simply and harmlessly having a little fun with something. Besides, your comments really do not follow at all the point being made by this or the context in which the idea is submitted. In other words, with all due respect, I think you've missed the point.
I think you need to read the original post again. They obviously were offended by the receiver's understanding of the word "half". For what it's worth, I agree with you that the use of the word "Pikermi" is not wise. Why not something more descriptive like "half-marathon"? Everyone knows what "half" means and most people know what a "marathon" is. All I'm saying is, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
"Fun Run"? I am never liking the name "half mary".
I think the renaming has already begin to occur since I've seen pikermi used in a number of blog posts from runners with a variety of skill levels.
True, non-runners won't really know what it is regardless of the name, just like they rarely understand that finishing a marathon is completely different from running a marathon with a time like 2:30. Most of the time they're just impressed that you even bother to exercise regularly (which is depressing enough in its own right).
Back to the main point, I'd be for renaming the half. Not because its difficult in its own right, but because for its level of difficulty and style of racing is completely different from a marathon. The half is only hard if you push yourself to run the fastest you can. In my (meager) experience, a marathon is hard and you have to push yourself just to finish regarldess. So basically I'm saying that the half doesn't deserve the credibility that marathon brings to it.
21k? Sounds like Blackjack!
"I'm going to run 2 blackjacks this year."
"What's your fastest blackjack?"
"The 2010 xxxxxx Marathon and Blackjack"
"Push it! Don't stay at 17 (k). Go for the blackjack!"
As a linguist, I have learned that the only way language changes is because people change it. So if you feel that the half-marathon should be called something else, then end your discussion of 'should it or shouldn't it be changed?' and simply start using the word. Dictionary writers don't decide what's a word or not. People decide when they begin using it and it catches on.
And so now I ask...what about ultra-marathons, etc?
So brickfeet you don't feel that running a half is hard? What about the first time you accomplished 13.1 miles? Did you not feel that was an accomplishment to be proud of? Kind of dissapointing to be looked down upon for not being able to complete 26.2? I sincerely believe that a marathon takes mental and physical stamina beyond what it takes to complete 1/2 but its still hard comparitively speaking when you think of all the "runners" who show up to a 5k never having really trained for racing don't you think.
2009: Opperation Troop Appreciation 5k oct 29:44 (first race), Greensburg Turkey Trot 5k nove 31:09
2010: On Deck for the Cure sprint 1mi 1-4 9:00, Race for Grace 5k 3-20 32:11, Yough River Council 1/2 marathon 4-10 2:16:39 (goal for 1st 1/2 2:25) 3rd in AG, Pittsburgh Komen Race for the Cure 5k 5-9 30:08, Jerry Mahar Jr Parkinsons Awareness 5k 6-5-10 29:28 6th in AG
Las Vegas Rock N Roll Marathon 12-5 5:01:?? FIRST FULL MARATHON (with calf tear)
2011: Race for Grace 5k 3-19 30:56, Alpha Fitness 5k 4-9 28:57 8th in AG, Pittsburgh Half Marathon 5-14 2:17:52, 9/11 Heroes Run 5k 9-11 27:34 (PR) 5th in AG, Pittsburgh ZooZilla 5k 10-2 28:03, Greenburg 5k Turkey Trot 11-24 28:35
NEXT PLANNED EVENT: Race for Grace 5k 3-31-2012, Pittsburgh Marathon 5-6-2012, Great Race 10K 9-30-2012
I think the real point we're trying to make is that EACH race distance is completely different from all of the others. It takes different levels of commitment and effort to train for the various races. It's not really if one distance is "harder" than another, because as runners, we all know that everything is relative where that is concerned. When you first start out, ONE mile is hard and you still think anyone who runs a marathon is nuts. Then you think maybe you could do a 5K, but still can't fathom any distance longer. As your training continues and your body is conditioned, you reach new levels and then you can't believe you once thought one mile was hard. So, saying 13.1 miles is easy and anyone can do it is easy to say for someone you has attained the conditioning to be able to complete a marathon, just as those who run the ultras probably now say running a marathon is easy. Again, it's all relative. What we're trying to say is that running 13.1 miles is completely different than running 26.2 miles. Different training, different race strategies, different time commitment, etc. - a completely different race. People enjoy the 13.1 for just as many different reasons. It's not always just a stepping stone to the "real" race - the marathon. Simply put, it has become a real race in itself, so it should have a real name for itself.
Interesting discussion, the only thing that is not really discussed are proposals for a new name. What could we call it ?
honguito...see the original post where that is all explained...
i did so, but it would be nice to see other proposals. just because someone proposes "pikermi" does not mean that this is the best solution