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  • KIRK_T Legend 279 posts since
    Jun 25, 2010

    Thanks.

     

    We have run this before but not snow covered & cold.





    Kirk: Started running again at 50.

    2010: 4-5K 1-3.5 mile 2-Half Marathon

    2011: 3-5K 1-3.5 mile 1-8K 1-10 mile 16-Half Marathon 1-Marathon


    Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon 01/15/2012 3:28:33 PR & BQ

    F^3 Lake Half Marathon 01/28/2012 1:48:34

    Shamrock Shuffle 8K 03/25 43:29

    Chi Town Half 4/01 1:57

    Illinois Marathon 4/28 3:56

    Wisconsin Marathon 5/05 3:56

    Lake Geneva Marathon 5/12 3:56

    Rockford Marathon 5/20 4:08

    Soldier Field 10 Mile 5/26 1:31

    Run for the Zoo 5K 6/03 19:57 PR

    13.1 Chicago 6/09 1:50

    North Shore Half 6/10 1:46

    Rock 'n' Roll Chicago 7/22

    Chicago Half 9/09

    Fox Valley Marathon 9/16

    Chicago Marathon 10/07

  • PaintingLady Legend 906 posts since
    Dec 12, 2009

    Kirk, I'll repeat CBMom's YOOZAA! All of those hills are one thing, but ice & snow covered is another. Good luck to you and your daughter. We will anxiously await your slippery report.

    Chuck, I'm 59 and my hr can hit 180+. Those are not comfortable runs, and I know to back off. It runs around 145-150 on more comfortable runs.

    I ran across another way to figure max heart rate. It used the Best Fit Formula. 210-50% of your age, -5%of Body weight in lbs, +4 if male, +0 if female.

    Jack had some good comments regarding HR.

    Marie





    Marie from Tennessee

    Training for Disney 2013 Goofy Challenge.....Yes, I'm certifiably CRAZY!

    61 year olds must be out of their minds to run a half marathon followed by a full the next day!

    Disney Half Marathon 1/7/2012 2:37:59

    Bear Hunt 5K 9/24/11 28:28 pb

    Trojan Trek Trail 5K 8/6/11 31:45

    Expo 10K 5/28/11 1:01:28,

    Expo 10K 5/26/12 1:05:39

    Eastman 10K 9/8/2012 1:01:11 pb

    "Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us." Hebrews 12:1


  • 728chuck Amateur 15 posts since
    Feb 4, 2011

    Thank you for the reply. I received a couple of emails that I had responses from KirkT and Coolbikermom but can't find them. I used to lift weights religuously 5 days per week and get on the eliptical cross trainer, however rotator cuff surgery last July has put a stop to my weight training for a while. Although I have always been in pretty good shape I have never ran 3 miles in my entire life without stopping. I am getting ready to take on this C25k challenge. If I can pull off running the 3 miles without stopping I will have to celebrate. Five years ago I never thought I would see the day that I would be running again now I have to build up my endurance for it.





    02/11/11 Ran my first mile outside 12:47

    03/1/11 Ran the mile in 10:33

    003/03/11 ran and walked 3.5 miles in about 45 minutes.

  • PaintingLady Legend 906 posts since
    Dec 12, 2009

    Chuck, the C25K, Couch to 5K, program is an excellent way to ease the body into running. Follow the program as outlined or repeat a workout or two if needed. Be patient, and you WILL be running a 5K before you know it.  One key factor in doing any run and monitoring your hear rate is to slow down. Sprinting, or running as fast as you can is not the object. That is also a good way to invite injury or burn out. Slow down, relax and enjoy.

    I think if you back up to the previous page on this thread you will find those replies you are missing. Of course as squirley as this site has been lately, that may not be the case for you.

    Marie





    Marie from Tennessee

    Training for Disney 2013 Goofy Challenge.....Yes, I'm certifiably CRAZY!

    61 year olds must be out of their minds to run a half marathon followed by a full the next day!

    Disney Half Marathon 1/7/2012 2:37:59

    Bear Hunt 5K 9/24/11 28:28 pb

    Trojan Trek Trail 5K 8/6/11 31:45

    Expo 10K 5/28/11 1:01:28,

    Expo 10K 5/26/12 1:05:39

    Eastman 10K 9/8/2012 1:01:11 pb

    "Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us." Hebrews 12:1


  • 728chuck Amateur 15 posts since
    Feb 4, 2011

    Thank you, I backed up to the previous page but only saw Scuffy's post. Oh well I am sure it was good advice. I want to go to the track today but my right knee is bothering me just a little today. I ran yesterday. I am wondering if I should take the day off or take a couple of ibuprofens and get with it.





    02/11/11 Ran my first mile outside 12:47

    03/1/11 Ran the mile in 10:33

    003/03/11 ran and walked 3.5 miles in about 45 minutes.

  • PaintingLady Legend 906 posts since
    Dec 12, 2009

    Chuck, I think good running form is second in importance to good fitting running shoes & wicking sock, so if you haven't already check into both for the protection of your knees.

    I'm trying to learn Chi Running, but there are several good artices and other methods that are good too.

    I copied this post by Mythic from the Penquin thread on running form.

     

    MythIc wrote " agree that proper shoes are vital if you are having pain issues in your running.

    When I started the C25K program (having been a walker and hiker) I had knee pain in my right knee (which curiously never bothered me when hiking and only slightly when walking).  I actually self-diagnosed from the tread-wear of my shoes and purchased neutral-cushioned shoes, which seemed to work fine until I quit heel-striking and changed to midfoot-landing running technique after taking a local running form class:

     

    learn_to_run.jpg

     

     

    I got this graphic from the Altrarunning site.  When I changed to this running form, my knee pain went away entirely, and I had to get rid of the cushioned shoes as well, since landing on a firmer, flatter shoe works for me.  Some people advocate barefoot running.  I don't think I'll ever go there (as I enjoy trail running), but this running form worked for me.

     

    Good luck in your search for pain-free running!' Mythic





    Marie from Tennessee

    Training for Disney 2013 Goofy Challenge.....Yes, I'm certifiably CRAZY!

    61 year olds must be out of their minds to run a half marathon followed by a full the next day!

    Disney Half Marathon 1/7/2012 2:37:59

    Bear Hunt 5K 9/24/11 28:28 pb

    Trojan Trek Trail 5K 8/6/11 31:45

    Expo 10K 5/28/11 1:01:28,

    Expo 10K 5/26/12 1:05:39

    Eastman 10K 9/8/2012 1:01:11 pb

    "Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us." Hebrews 12:1


  • Joseph Tree Legend 378 posts since
    Oct 22, 2010

    I'm one of those barefoot runners and will advocate for form first.  If you go and invest in more shoe again and again, you will just be putting off the injuries.  See whatyou can find in the way of form coaching and take it easy on your body through the buildup process.  Everyone's different, so don't make your knees be hostages to a plan they didn't necessarily sign up for.

     

    And as for the graphic, that's good stuff.  You would do well to learn that kind of form and save mucho stress on your legs and all.  As for #4, cadence, I've spent some time listening to a web metronome, just to get the rythm into my head.  Much faster and shorter strides are the trick.

     

    BTW, it's much easier to learn it well Barefoot.





    Barefoot / Minimalist Runner

    ...not maintaining this these days..

    07/29/2012 Marsh Creek Raptor Run 10 Mile Trail Race

    07/15/2012 Quadzilla 15K Trail Run, Trexlertown, PA 1:37 (2011, 1:49)

    04/29/2012 Lehigh Valley / St. Luke's HM, 1:43:15 (2011, 1:54:20 )

    03/19/2012 Kutztown Fool's Run 10 Miler, 1:18:15 (2011, 1:30:20)

    02/26/2012 Ugly Mudder 7.2 Mile Trail Run, Reading, PA 1:20

    11/27/2011 Dirty Bird 15K Trail Run, Birdsboro, PA 1:40

    10/08/2011 Lehigh Gap Nature Center 10K Trail Run (6.38 miles), 59:20 (10/07/2012)

    Started running (again) May 5, 2010

  • Joseph Tree Legend 378 posts since
    Oct 22, 2010

    Kirk, What are YakTrax?  Footwear, I guess, but of what sort?  Were they good for your snowy road 10K?

     

    I have been running in Vibram Fivefinger Bikilas,which are OK in a little less or in fluffy snow, but are not quite ideal for chunky refrozen nasty stuff, as I discovered on my run yesterday. I ran a paved Nat'l Park trail that I'd hoped had been plowed, but had only been driven down by a truck once.  I had to follow the track, which passed through slush puddles and refrozen or been muddled by people and deer tracks.  Just a little too challenging, especially for my ankles.





    Barefoot / Minimalist Runner

    ...not maintaining this these days..

    07/29/2012 Marsh Creek Raptor Run 10 Mile Trail Race

    07/15/2012 Quadzilla 15K Trail Run, Trexlertown, PA 1:37 (2011, 1:49)

    04/29/2012 Lehigh Valley / St. Luke's HM, 1:43:15 (2011, 1:54:20 )

    03/19/2012 Kutztown Fool's Run 10 Miler, 1:18:15 (2011, 1:30:20)

    02/26/2012 Ugly Mudder 7.2 Mile Trail Run, Reading, PA 1:20

    11/27/2011 Dirty Bird 15K Trail Run, Birdsboro, PA 1:40

    10/08/2011 Lehigh Gap Nature Center 10K Trail Run (6.38 miles), 59:20 (10/07/2012)

    Started running (again) May 5, 2010

  • MangoLuvr Laurie Pro 82 posts since
    Oct 3, 2010

    JT, YakTrax are these cleat-like thingies you attach to your running or hiking shoes to keep from slipping on ice.  I bought some but don't really like using them as they make my feet hurt.  My postman says they use something similar on very icy days but otherwise their boots are good enough.

     

    http://www.scoutgear.com/shopbybrand-yaktrax.html

     

     

     

     

    I've been managing to average about 45 min. per day of some sort of exercise but I sure am ready for all the snow to melt so I can get outside more!  Today was mild at around freezing with some sun so I went ahead and walked four miles outside and it felt so lovely to have fresh air and sun in my face.  It took me about 10 extra minutes to walk those miles than usual because of the condition of the streets, but I felt like I got a good workout, esp. the bits where I had to walk in snow drifts where the sidewalks weren't shoveled and the streets were too busy to accomodate a walker.





    Lost over 100 lbs. in 11 months in 2008-2009

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    Big Sur International Marathon Power Walk Division 10.6-Miler 2:40:30  April 2010

    Run For Isaiah 4.4k  38:30 Sept. 2010

    Eyes on Aids 10k 77:40 Oct. 2, 2010

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    Upcoming Challenges:

    Hospital Hill HM June 4

  • KIRK_T Legend 279 posts since
    Jun 25, 2010

    We had a great run today.

    It was cold but the sun was out and No wind! The temp at the start was about 16*.

    Most of the road for the course was clear and just a few spots with snow on it.

    It was a "Fun Run" so no chip timing but we averaged a 9:17 pace overall. The first mile was real slow at a 12:00 pace due to single file and slower people in the front of the pack.

     

    Over all a great time.





    Kirk: Started running again at 50.

    2010: 4-5K 1-3.5 mile 2-Half Marathon

    2011: 3-5K 1-3.5 mile 1-8K 1-10 mile 16-Half Marathon 1-Marathon


    Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon 01/15/2012 3:28:33 PR & BQ

    F^3 Lake Half Marathon 01/28/2012 1:48:34

    Shamrock Shuffle 8K 03/25 43:29

    Chi Town Half 4/01 1:57

    Illinois Marathon 4/28 3:56

    Wisconsin Marathon 5/05 3:56

    Lake Geneva Marathon 5/12 3:56

    Rockford Marathon 5/20 4:08

    Soldier Field 10 Mile 5/26 1:31

    Run for the Zoo 5K 6/03 19:57 PR

    13.1 Chicago 6/09 1:50

    North Shore Half 6/10 1:46

    Rock 'n' Roll Chicago 7/22

    Chicago Half 9/09

    Fox Valley Marathon 9/16

    Chicago Marathon 10/07

  • KIRK_T Legend 279 posts since
    Jun 25, 2010

    More snow this morning.

    We woke up to about 2" and ended up with about 3.

     

    So I decided to go out and enjoy a nice Sunday morning run in the fresh falling snow.

    Ended up doing a nice 4 mile run.





    Kirk: Started running again at 50.

    2010: 4-5K 1-3.5 mile 2-Half Marathon

    2011: 3-5K 1-3.5 mile 1-8K 1-10 mile 16-Half Marathon 1-Marathon


    Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon 01/15/2012 3:28:33 PR & BQ

    F^3 Lake Half Marathon 01/28/2012 1:48:34

    Shamrock Shuffle 8K 03/25 43:29

    Chi Town Half 4/01 1:57

    Illinois Marathon 4/28 3:56

    Wisconsin Marathon 5/05 3:56

    Lake Geneva Marathon 5/12 3:56

    Rockford Marathon 5/20 4:08

    Soldier Field 10 Mile 5/26 1:31

    Run for the Zoo 5K 6/03 19:57 PR

    13.1 Chicago 6/09 1:50

    North Shore Half 6/10 1:46

    Rock 'n' Roll Chicago 7/22

    Chicago Half 9/09

    Fox Valley Marathon 9/16

    Chicago Marathon 10/07

  • PaintingLady Legend 906 posts since
    Dec 12, 2009

    Kirk, you are amazing. All of that running in the snow. Congrats on the race. Great pace.

    My daughter & I ran 4 miles today. Had to put in a cpl of short walk breaks, but finished in 42:34. I'm still frustrated  that I can't run continuously more than 2.6 miles as of today, but we're improving each week, so maybe I just need to learn the virtue of patience along w/ perseverence.

    Happy running.

    Marie





    Marie from Tennessee

    Training for Disney 2013 Goofy Challenge.....Yes, I'm certifiably CRAZY!

    61 year olds must be out of their minds to run a half marathon followed by a full the next day!

    Disney Half Marathon 1/7/2012 2:37:59

    Bear Hunt 5K 9/24/11 28:28 pb

    Trojan Trek Trail 5K 8/6/11 31:45

    Expo 10K 5/28/11 1:01:28,

    Expo 10K 5/26/12 1:05:39

    Eastman 10K 9/8/2012 1:01:11 pb

    "Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us." Hebrews 12:1


  • SteveBikeRun Legend 455 posts since
    Aug 3, 2010

    KIRK:  This is the 10K that I checked out last year and decided not to do because it's so hilly.  I hope you and your daughter are also checking out the ice sculptures.





    --Steve

    Completed in 2012:

    The Qualifier HM, Midland MI, May 2012, 2:58, 80+ degrees

    Dam to Dam 20K, Des Moines, IA, June 2012, 2:17, PR for this race

    Garry Bjorklund HM, Duluth, MN, June 2012, 2:20

    Fox Valley HM, St. Charles, IL, 9/16/12, 2:23

    Des Moines HM, 10/21/12, 2:19

    Tentative plans for 2013:

    Wisconsin (Half) Marathon, Kenosha, WI 5/4/2013 (registered)

    Dam To Dam 20K, Des Moines, 6/2/2013 (registration opens March 20th)

    Grandma's (Half) Marathon, Duluth, MN, 6/22/2013 (if I get picked again in the lottery)

    Des Moines HM, 10/20/2013 (registered)

  • SteveBikeRun Legend 455 posts since
    Aug 3, 2010

    Chuck:  I'm 64 and my HR can get up to 180, especially on a longer and hillier run.  It recovers quickly and most of the time is around 150 during my runs (I don't use a heart rate monitor, so I'm guessing).  I have a pacemaker that keeps my HR at a minimum of 60 but does not regulate the maximum.  My cardiologist does not see a temporary level of 180 as a problem and he strongly encourages my running.

     

    I think that long, slow distance running will help train your heart to beat more slowly.  If your HR drops fairly soon after reaching 177 and you don't have chest pains or dizziness, then it sounds to me that you're OK to continue.  However, I don't know your history and I'm certainly not a doctor.  I need others on this forum with more knowledge about this to chime in.





    --Steve

    Completed in 2012:

    The Qualifier HM, Midland MI, May 2012, 2:58, 80+ degrees

    Dam to Dam 20K, Des Moines, IA, June 2012, 2:17, PR for this race

    Garry Bjorklund HM, Duluth, MN, June 2012, 2:20

    Fox Valley HM, St. Charles, IL, 9/16/12, 2:23

    Des Moines HM, 10/21/12, 2:19

    Tentative plans for 2013:

    Wisconsin (Half) Marathon, Kenosha, WI 5/4/2013 (registered)

    Dam To Dam 20K, Des Moines, 6/2/2013 (registration opens March 20th)

    Grandma's (Half) Marathon, Duluth, MN, 6/22/2013 (if I get picked again in the lottery)

    Des Moines HM, 10/20/2013 (registered)

  • Joan the pt Expert 51 posts since
    Oct 25, 2010

    Wow,

    4 miles in 40 some minutes is good. Give yourself a pat on the back. I just did my 1st 5K today and actually finished in a little under 45 nminutes. Yay, I broke my 15 minute mile. But you all inspire me. I will keep on with my 5Ks and finish the C25K. I just can't wait for spring time so I can consistently go outside and not have to use the treadmill.

     

    So here's to the next race.

     

    Good luck and have fun

     

    Joan

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