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  • longislandguy Pro 121 posts since
    Dec 31, 2009

    this heat and humidity has been killing us here in NY as well, although this morning was the first amazing day.  On Week 5 here of the 18 week Hal Higdon plan and got to do a nice easy 3 miles in 73 degree weather!   Much better than doing the Queens Half marathon on Saturday.. the temps were in the 80s and the air was like soup.  I ran my worst HM time ever but only one more qualifier needed to get guaranteed admission into the 2011 NYC Marathon.

     

    Overall, I feel pretty good and mostly pain/injury free.  Some tightness/soreness here and there but I feel like I'm on track for the MCM in October.  Going to Florida this weekend and I'll have to do a 7 mile and 14 mile in the Florida heat.. not looking forward to that!

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    well- I got my 8 miles in this morning @62 degrees and 92% humidity

     

    much better conditions than last week at  like 78 degrees and 88
    % humiditywhen I crapped out after 4 miles

     

    I ran on an old outdoor cinder track this morning-started before sun-up-so I got to watch the sunrise,slowly during the first few miles-then it was a matter of mental arithmetic( let's see-2 more laps and then I am 1/3v done, etc.-momentary bguzz at lap 20 when I realized if I continued to restrain my pace I would hit my goal-but instead I picked up my pace a little too much in mile 6-and paid the price for that in miles 7 and 8.

     

    I don't listen to music- I am a little hard of hearing from a lifetime of power saws,air compressors and hammering- and I never really cared much about music before that anyhow-to me, it's mostly irritating backgorund noise-especially irritating in a car with my wifwe- she MUST have the radio on-and constantly flip from station to station

     

    Next week  I should be doing 8-1/2 miles- and I plan( at this point0 to do it on the half marathon course-- the last 2/3 or so of the course

     

    Best wishes all,

    stephen

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    Well folks- I got my 9 miles in yesterday-and it was almost easy!

    5:30 AM and 62 degrees-approx. 63 or 64 when I finished.

     

    work is pretty slow here-so I have the energy to get in some bike rides on the days I don't run-anywhere from 11 to about 30 miles

     

    the bike really seems to help with the running recovery. I was having some doubts a couple weeks ago when it was so hot- but yesterdays run has renewed my confidence that I will be able to go the distance on Oct. 10.

     

    hope everyone else is still doing well,

    Best wishes,

    stephen

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Hey Jess, Donna, Marie and Stephen - good to see that you've found a new home here! I've been bogged down in the 200+ lb thread, & I'm hanging in on the over 50 threads, but this one seems to be more up my alley, so I hope you don't mind if I hang out here.  It is great to hear your stories again, and see how you are progressing on your training and working toward your long distance race goals.

     

    I've been running fairly consistently since we all were together on C25K last year.  I added in swimming and biking, because of sprint triathlons I was doing this summer.  I've done three so far, with only one left in mid-Sept.  After a few 5K's in Aug and October, my main goal is a half marathon in mid-November, and one in Feb 2011, and maybe the Nashville marathon at the end of April 2011. I don't see the need to rush into it, until my pace improves.

     

    I'm still running at my slow pace, between 14-15mm for 3-5 mi runs, and have only gone a little faster on the few races that I've done.  I've been slowly working on increasing my very long run (VLR) distances since May.  I decided to do my VLRs every 2-3 weeks, with 6-7 mile runs on the alternating weeks, depending upon my race/taper schedule.  I did 8 mi in May, 9 mi in June and 10 mi twice in July.

     

    However, the heat and humidity has been persistant since the beginning of June, and it has been hard to find mornings that start cool, so that I can run long - because my VLR runs last 1.5-2.5 hours.  The only time I've seen a temperature with a "6" in the front, is when I did a 10K in MN in June while visiting family.  The A/C at my gym was broken most of the summer, but now its working, so I've started going back there now for speed intervals, spin cycling and strength training.  However, there is NO WAY I'm doing VLRs there - it is too easy to stop, and the TM is boring.

     

    Yesterday it was 71, so I tried to do a 9 mi VLR again, but my legs were sore and I was going even slower than normal and had no "heart".  So at 6 miles (ave pace 15.6mm) I gave up and took a "short cut" back.  I walked for a mile, then jogged the last half mile to my car. It was 82 when I finished. It was the first time w my Garmin heart rate monitor, and I averaged 148- at the low end of my aerobic zone.

     

    I am lucky that my HM isn't until mid-Nov, because I don't have to push myself on the distance during the heat of the summer.  However, if I did have a HM in mid-Sept, I'm sure I could up my training to make it happen.  My 5K is this Saturday, so I've slacked off on bike and swim and focused on running, but my overall training volume is down.  After the 5K, I've got to up my bike & swim mileage again, for my last triathlon in mid-Sept.

     

    For my HM training, I'm not following Higdon's or anyone else's plan precisely, but just following the basic principles implied by the schedule.  I'd like to finish the Nov HM in 3 hrs, but that implies an ave 13.5mm pace thru most of the race.  The ave pace I'm running my VLRs now is much slower than that, but maybe, when it gets cooler, I can allow myself to train faster w/o worrying about heat exhaustion.

     

    Bett- I can easily see myself doing the same as you in my HM, cause I know I'll be passed by walkers, and probably pace many of them.

     

    Well I've said enough for now.  I've got to go spin.





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    Jo ann,

    I get tired just READING about all the stuff you do!

     

    I understand about you hiding out indoors to escape the heat-as I remember you where able to run outside all winter when we were hiding out indoors for 8-10 weeks in the worst of the winter.

     

    My 9 mile run consumed exactly 1 quart of gatorade-it actually rationed out really well by allowing myself 2-3 gulps at every mile-but quite tedious carrying  the quart.

     

    My son uses a camel pack-which seems REALLY hot and uncomfortable-and i have seen people with little utility belt gizmos with a bunch of tiny bottles strapped on-which seems kinda silly.

     

    I saw a guy a couple weeks ago with a belt and a larger single bottle that went intop a single sorta canted sleeve/holster thing right back in the small of his back- I am gonna look for one of those because it looked inconspicuous and easily workable.

     

    heading out for a quick bike ride,

    Best wishes all,

    stephen

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    I normally carry a 20-24 oz water bottle when I run any distance outside, even when I'm doing a 5K, because even for just 3 miles, it still takes me 40-45 mins to complete and I like to control my hydration with this heat.  I can get by w 20 oz for up to 4 or 5 mi runs, as I sip every mile or so, but when its real humid, I drink more freely.

     

    When I go 6 mi or longer, I use one of those waistbands with the bottle in the back and it works pretty good for me - I just refill my hand bottle half way thru the run. On these long runs, I'll put cold Gatorade into the hand bottle, to sustain electrolytes and carbs, and iced water in the 2nd bottle.  That gives me the option of pouring water on my head near the end.

     

    As I extend my VLR to 10 miles and beyond, I'm going to have to start doing repeats of the same 5-6 mile routes that I run on my "shorter" runs.  This will let me refill my drinks & use the restroom at the park (if needed).  The route of my first HM is about 30 miles away, so I do have the option of pre-running portions of the course.  I think that is a good idea, and it will relieve some of my anxiety about going the distance.  Even if its hilly, at least I'll know in advance that I can handle it.  If I ever pre-run the whole route, I'll place extra water bottles along the way.





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Oh, crap! Now I'm in for it!!!  I was searching around for race events to plug into my training schedule and I've found out that there is a Women's Half Marathon in Nashville on Sept 25th.  Now, I've already run 10 miles twice, and if it cools down a few times between now and mid-Sept, then I'm sure I could repeat that again and do a few more VLRs, so theoretically I could actually do it. OMG! Crap! Oh, Boy!..... Well, we will see....





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    Jess,

    congrats on your 10 mile run- you did better than I did this morning

     

    I did MY 10 mile run this  morning- started before sun-up-but manohman-it was just too hot for this today

    I finished the 10 miles- but that is about all the positive i can say about it

     

    I drank OVER a 1/2 gallon of fluid during the run- I still ended up weighing over a pound less than when I started.

     

    If the weather is remotely like this on  oct. 10- I doubt I will even start the race

     

    I REALLY want it to be 62 degrees or cooler on race day- if the temps are 62- I run my times and hit my targets- but much over that I really fall apart

     

    Best wishes all,

    stephen

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Jess - good job on your 10 mile run!! One more notch on the belt!! But girl, you've got to bring water AND electrolytes out when you run so long, no matter what the temp.  Since you are doing laps, at least have them available in small bottles to take with out with you every lap or two.  You will find it off-sets the wobbles, and may even help you with recovery.  You definitely need some carbs and some protein after a long run, even if its just a peanut butter sandwich and a banana.

     

    You are really running at a great pace for your long run.  Both my 10 milers took me 2.5 hrs to complete, so I'll be lucky to finish my first HM in 3:15 hrs. I need to "man-up" though and go out and do an early morning run like Stephen did, and just see how far I can go.  And I've got to get back outdoors on my bike.  I haven't signed up for the Sept 25th HM race yet, but I guess I'd better.

     

    The triathlon group that I joined does regular workouts together when different folks schedules overlap, but these (mostly) guys are just too fast for me, and still run around twice as fast as me, so I can't really run "with" them.  Even the slower guys run near 10mm pace, while I'm doing 13-15mm.  I am often amazed that they just go out for an "easy" 8-10 mi run (HA!), then I realize for them thats just an hour run.  I do that all of the time (but only travel 4-4.5 miles)  So I don't really go out with them much except to be on the same trail at the same time.  Same goes for cycling.





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Yesterday I committed to doing the Nashville Half Marathon on 9/25 by registering for it. I went to MapMyRun and figured out the elevation/grade for the HM. After the first mi or so, the next 5 miles is mostly a gradual incline away from the river.  Then it turns around and it is ~5 miles of gradual decline, and finishes with the last 2 miles relatively flat in the riverfront area.  This means we all will have a little gravity assist when we finish the last half of the race - maybe I can run a steady pace thruout.  Plus the ave temps are 82/61. Yeah!

     

    Today, I got up earlier, was well rested and set my mind to do 10 miles. With my new Garmin watch and HR monitor, I ran fairly steady and actually had a pretty good run. Temp 73->83. My average HR went up about 1 bpm per mile, so I averaged 150 bpm, at about a 15.5mm pace. Total time 155 mins.  I followed it with a 1.25 mi cool down walk, for a total day of 11.25 mi. With what I did today, I know I can finish the HM, even if I have to walk the last 3 miles.





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

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