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19111 Views 84 Replies Latest reply: Nov 10, 2010 2:52 PM by Jasmine1972 RSS Go to original post 1 2 3 4 5 6 Previous Next
  • karey67358 Amateur 22 posts since
    Feb 24, 2010

    You are all so inspiring.  I had given up trying to find a place to read, keep up with and post in because everyone seems so fast or their runs seem so easy.  Mine aren't easy and I'm not fast.

     

    I'm having a tough time mentally pushing through the runs.  I have a tough time making it to 2 miles anymore.  I was doing 4's straight through (running all the way) and when I started increasing the miles beyond that, I just couldn't keep running.  I really want to do a half - there is one not too far away.  I'd love everything about it - the accomplishment, the bib number, the sweat, the picture to prove I did something physically challenging.... the mental "ha!" to my inner brat who wants me to walk (ok, now I sound nuts)

     

    Do you have a self talk? A distraction method?  any advice to push through the miles?  I run the treadmill at a comfortable 10:30 (but have a tough time pushing through 2 miles) and generally average 11:30 outside (use a GPS program on my snazzy phone)... again the outside is run/walk

     

    Is there a thread I haven't found yet that already did this?

  • hawaiimama Rookie 1 posts since
    Apr 19, 2010

    Jess,

     

    I want to tell you that you will be able to complete this race-as a runner!  I am new to running and have found Hal Higdon's plans reasonable.  I completed my first half in June and ran the whole time!  I will say that mentally, the week before, I was having doubts.  If you do the long runs, you will do fine.  I can't believe I finished. I am now contemplating a 25K next month but have not paid yet.  I will tell you that I found it difficult to run, mentally, after the half.  It seemed like doing only a few miles was a challenge.  Take if one workout at a time.  did you print out the plan and mark off each time you complete a run? kind of rewarding.  God bless you on your journey. Pattie

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    Hey Jess- I know your scheduled half marathon is coming up in about a week

     

    I am mentally sending you my best wishes and encouragement-and wishing you the best of luck!!!!

     

    My race is still about 6 weeks away-plenty of time to get nervous

     

    my last 10 mile run- very hot weather- took me about a week to recover between the run-and the heat-and balancing that with  my physical type construction job

     

     

    much cooler now- it's 50 degrees this morning- planning another 10 mile run for sunday- legs feeling super ,super strong- but right leg,front, just below knee is a bit inflamed- which I am keeping in check with aleve and acetomiophen and ice- other than that-feeling pretty good.

     

    again- very best wishes,

    stephen

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Well this morning didn't get down to 62 deg as forecast, only 65 deg, but that was good enough and humidity was much better. I'm still not an early AM waker, so I didn't get to the run path until 6:10 AM and started around sunrise.

     

    Today was my longest run to date: 12.3 miles.  My goal was at least 11 mi, so I was pleased that I was able to stretch it out.  I carried a 24 oz bottle of water and had a 24 oz bottle of gatorade in my butt pack, and stashed an extra bottle along my path, just in case.  The lower humidity cut down on my sweating and my thirst, and I found that I didn't need the extra bottle at all.

     

    Since I did running and strength two days ago, and swimming/biking yesterday, my legs weren't as "fresh" as on other long run days.  So my starting pace was near 15mm, and I kept close to that for the first half of the run, then it started to creep up.  Also my heart rate for the first 7 miles was fairly constant near 141.  I set out today with a 3 hour time target for (maybe) 12 miles, and finished 11.6 miles in 3 hrs.  Total time for 12.3 miles was 3:12.

     

    My HM is in 4 weeks, and my target time was 3:15 (though 3:00 would be better).  I've got to improve my pace a bit to get in that time span.  The good news is most of the Nashville course from mi 6 - mi 11 is down slope, so gravity will offset tired muscles.  Of course the main goal is to just finish the race, and I know now that I can do it.

     

    It seems to me that my heart is capable of sustaining the distance, but I've just got to get the rest of my body parts to the ability to sustain the effort over time.  When I do my shorter runs, I try to push my HR to the next zone more often, for longer periods, to help build that endurance and improve the pace.

     

    Jess- do you get "extra credit" at work for doing the Disneyland event?





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    well- i am 48 today AND- I got my 10 mile run in this morning as planned-so take THAT mother nature, LOL

     

    really nice and cool this morning- started out  in the dark on the trail- running the last 2/3plus of the half marathon course.

     

    first one in the parking lot this morning- although a guy arrived just as I was heading out-and he passed me on the trail 4-5 minutes later. that's ok though- he and I BOTH know i got there first-and that is the secret shame he will have to live with the rest of today, LOL

     

    temp somewhere in the 50's this morning- I could just see my breath in the air during the early part of the run---so very nice

    and so,so,so,so,so,so,so,so,SOOOOOOOOO much easier than the last 10 miler.
    Pretty much cruised the whole way-and almost all the way I felt I could run faster-but didn't

     

    playing mind games- this section of the trail is really well marked with stone markers at every mile point- it takes me to a count of 700-750 to go a mile.- carrying a quart of gatorade- my little game was I treated myself to 3 swallows of gatorade at every mile marker- 32 ounces/10 miles-3 swallows /mile-worked out really great

    probably just the post race buzz- but if the temp is below this on race day- I can probably run the whole thing backwards, I feel so good- Best wishes to all-and especially to Jess on her upcoming  race- tear it up disneygal

     

    Best wishes,

    stephen

  • longislandguy Pro 121 posts since
    Dec 31, 2009

    happy birthday stephen!

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Stephen- congrats on your great 10 mile run - and happy birthday!  Isn't it wonderful that when nice runnable weather finally came around, you are fit enough to have the endurance to go out and enjoy a 10 mile run?

     

    When you do your "count", is it every other step? For me, I'll count every right step, but its "one-and-two-and", so that I really am counting every 4th step.  That works for me.  I usually count to 150 for a quarter mile, so a mile for me is around 600.  On my long runs, when I get tired enough that I have to walk, I'll run 300 and walk 50, instead of timing it.  When I'm in my final half mile of a race and want to accelerate, I'll speed up for 30 and ease for 20, or for the final push I'll gage the distance for 50 or 100 (if I've got the strength left) and just count my way to the finish line as fast as I can sustain it.

     

    I like that you use exactly one quart for your 10 mi run.  I'm a little slower than you, so I take more (20 oz in hand, 24 oz in butt bottle) to get me thru. I got by with 44oz on my 12 mi run, but doing these long runs with lower humidity, I have to be careful.  I found myself drinking less (due to less sweat?) and started getting leg cramps, so I've got to keep the hydration up.

     

    Jess- So glad that you got race day off - one less thing to worry about.  I looked at your forecast for this week, and it seems you have morning temps in the low 60's all week and on race day.  Not as good as the 50's but manageable.  Personally, I don't see how you work all those hours and get in the training that you do manage.

     

    My race is in 4 weeks.  With my luck, we will be having an Indian summer heat spell at the time, but hopefully not.  To all HM-ers: have an enjoyable training week, and keep up the mileage!





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009


    home for lunch- before I head back out to buy some slate for one project and tile for 3 other projects- plus some millwork--- gonna buy some new running shoes on the way home since I will be driving right past my favorite store

     

    Jasmine- my count is not directly correlated with my foot strikes---- very roughly it's two strikes for every count- but really it's a time thing- I try to set up a particular cadence- onethousand one,onethousandtwo-and so forth- if i hit the mile in  a count of 680- I know I am going too fast- and when I get up to 750-760- I know I am tuckered out and really going slow- my last 2 miles were around 750

     

    the previous 10 miler- it was so hot-the last couple miles my shirt was competely saturated and I could here it flapping and smacking like a wet towel fight in highschool- yesterday it was so much cooler my shirt wasn't totally disgusting- but it was still nice to finish the run-walk for 5 minutes or so and then change into a dry shirt- even had a little picnic- a couple icy cold hardboiled eggs, some choclate milk and a bagel

     

    gotta get back to work,

    stephen

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    Outstanding Jess- I am sure we are all super proud of you!

     

    I am already planning on walking through the water stops- for much the same reason- frankly
    I have a problem  even drinking out of a bottle on the run-so out of a gatorade cup- out of the question

    i have 5 weeks to go-and mercifully morning temps are down into the 50's

     

    11 miles next sunday- long bikeride yesterday- spoke broke 2/3 through the planned distance- planning 5 mile run tommorrow morning

    starting to get nervous.

    stephen

     

    BTW- word slipped out via a 3rd party that I was doing this-and one of my friends/neighbors started giving me some lip yesterday about how there was no way I can do it etc.

     

    I just smiled at hime- but inside I thought( excuse the language)- i thought, eff you tom---AND the horse you rode in on- not only am I gonna run this thing- I am gonna buy the sticker- put it on my vehicle-and park my vehicle for the next year so that you have to see that sticker every morning on your way to work!)

    best wishes,

    stephen

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    Yippee! - Congrats on a great race Jess - I'm so proud.  Your improvement in time is amazing and I am so glad that you were able to do so well.  It is great that you were able to see the improvement in how you felt near the end of the race.  For me, I'm just hoping to finish in 3:15 or less.  Maybe the excitement will pull me along enough to do better than that - we will see... 3 wks to go.





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • SMARIETTA Legend 302 posts since
    Oct 3, 2009

    I hope Jess is well recovered from her 1/2 by now

     

    as for me- I have some" issues"

     

    all in all- legs and lungs feel  great- but I do have some pain-probably some shin splint type thing- that I am icing and nuking with ibuprofen

     

    i am about  a month away from my race- did an 11 mile training session yesterday- some problems---

     

    much cooler temps than a few weeks ago-which is good- mid week runs are 5 miles or so-and I  can run out 2-1/2 or 3 miles-and run back without carrying fluid- and then just drink some water after the run( 5-6 miles round trip

     

    so sunday, I figured-11 mile training run- I can carry a  small bottle of water- there is a water station at the turn around-so I can re-fill midway-and not have to carrry as much fluid

     

    this turned out to be a mistake- going 11 miles on water-- is apparently a no/no for me

     

     

    ran out to the turn around @ 5-1/2 miles- started back- got to somewhere in the 8-9 mile range-and just really fell apart- no gas what so ever

     

    legs felt fine- lungs felt fine- just no gas- then the legs started cramping up- which I have never experienced before-and well- really the last mile or so ended up being a run some/walk some,run some/walk some sort of deal- 2-1/2 hours for 11 miles which was disappointing, to say the least.

     

    I really have to remind myself-  pacing is gonna be critical for me- on the beginning of long runs I really try to restrain myself early in the run-and run much slower-rediculously slow  untill I get farther into the run-and- well yesterday I kind of neglected to do that

     

    also- though the temps were cool enough yesterday- the humidity was quite high and that really  had an effect- but I thinki primarily the problem was I REALLY needed the Gatorade calories by the 8-9 mile mark that I would have ingested if I had not been drinking water instead.

     

    I will do 12 miles on the 26th-that will be my last long run-and that will take me to a point 2  weeks before my race.

     

    best wishes all,

    stephen

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 927 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    10 days until my half marathon, and today I did my last long run before it.  Yesterday, I did 5.5 miles (including some hill repeats) and I really felt it today.  Started pre-dawn at 68 deg. to do a 10 mi run.  Without fresh legs, my starting pace was 30 sec/mi slower than my previous VLR of 12.3 miles.  I was able to keep that same slightly slower pace thru about 7 miles, then the weariness set in, and I began my run/walk sequencing until I completed my run.

     

    My plan is to run several more 3-4 mi days, plus a 6 mi day between now and Weds and then rest until the Saturday race. But I will use my judgement to see how that goes.  The tough part will be to NOT run on Thurs & Fri.

     

    Stephen- for my run today I carried 2 24oz water bottles (one in hand, one in buttpack), but I should have made one of them Gatorade.  I do carry the sport jelly beans in my pack, so I had a few of those around 7 mi to tide me over.  Came home and cooked an omelet & toast to restock protein and carbs.





    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

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