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  • Dolliegirl Expert 53 posts since
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    3,765. Jul 29, 2011 8:33 AM (in response to chaseorbeingchased)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    I think I read an article on Active.com about that so you may want to search their archives. From what I remember there isn't a big difference but I guess in the long run, the treadmill is a little easier because the belt there is somewhat less resistance. I would imagine you need to account to your body's adjustment to various weather conditions.





    Dolliegirl

    Big Bunny Fun Run 5K, Cupertino, CA 4/23/2011 41:34

    Weight Watchers Walk It! 5K, Menlo Park, CA 5/22/2011 41:20

    Santa Cruz Firecracker 5K, Santa Cruz, CA 7/04/2011 41:52

    Wharf to Wharf 10K, Santa Cruz to Capitola,CA 7/24/2011 1:21:47

    Trail Hog 5K, San Jose, CA 9/24/2011 55:11 (big, big hill! trail run. very hard! who knew?)

    Waterfront 5K, San Francisco, CA 1/22/2012 43.47

    Valentine Fun Run 5K, Campbell, CA 2/11/2012 45:11

    She.Is.Beautiful 5K, Santa Cruz, CA 3/25/2012

    Big Bunny Fun Run 5K, Cupertino, CA 4/07/2012

  • Dolliegirl Expert 53 posts since
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    3,766. Jul 29, 2011 8:42 AM (in response to chaseorbeingchased)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    Last check, I was a 13 minute miler and I know that is faster than when I started (not much, though). Quite frankly, I never worry all that much about speed. It's kind of an interesting topic for discussion and I respect how others may use it as an indicator of success but I get more excited when I can run (at any speed) for increasing lengths of time. I brag more about being able to run for 10, 20, 30 + consecutive minutes. That seems to amaze me far more than speed at this part of my running journey. So don't get discouraged! Congratulations for starting, be patient with yourself and just enjoy the journey at any speed or distance! It only gets better! Can I hear an amen?





    Dolliegirl

    Big Bunny Fun Run 5K, Cupertino, CA 4/23/2011 41:34

    Weight Watchers Walk It! 5K, Menlo Park, CA 5/22/2011 41:20

    Santa Cruz Firecracker 5K, Santa Cruz, CA 7/04/2011 41:52

    Wharf to Wharf 10K, Santa Cruz to Capitola,CA 7/24/2011 1:21:47

    Trail Hog 5K, San Jose, CA 9/24/2011 55:11 (big, big hill! trail run. very hard! who knew?)

    Waterfront 5K, San Francisco, CA 1/22/2012 43.47

    Valentine Fun Run 5K, Campbell, CA 2/11/2012 45:11

    She.Is.Beautiful 5K, Santa Cruz, CA 3/25/2012

    Big Bunny Fun Run 5K, Cupertino, CA 4/07/2012

  • Dolliegirl Expert 53 posts since
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    3,767. Jul 29, 2011 8:46 AM (in response to chaseorbeingchased)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    Thanks for the book recommendation. From what I have read, it seems like John Bingham is the "father of the Penguin movement".





    Dolliegirl

    Big Bunny Fun Run 5K, Cupertino, CA 4/23/2011 41:34

    Weight Watchers Walk It! 5K, Menlo Park, CA 5/22/2011 41:20

    Santa Cruz Firecracker 5K, Santa Cruz, CA 7/04/2011 41:52

    Wharf to Wharf 10K, Santa Cruz to Capitola,CA 7/24/2011 1:21:47

    Trail Hog 5K, San Jose, CA 9/24/2011 55:11 (big, big hill! trail run. very hard! who knew?)

    Waterfront 5K, San Francisco, CA 1/22/2012 43.47

    Valentine Fun Run 5K, Campbell, CA 2/11/2012 45:11

    She.Is.Beautiful 5K, Santa Cruz, CA 3/25/2012

    Big Bunny Fun Run 5K, Cupertino, CA 4/07/2012

  • Guayquilwriter Legend 511 posts since
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    3,768. Jul 29, 2011 12:07 PM (in response to chaseorbeingchased)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    Dollie - when I started 14 min miles were killing me. Now I "race" at about 10:45 and train normally at about 13:05 and getting faster.

     

    With time, training and fitness you get faster.





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  • runnermommy3 Pro 139 posts since
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    3,769. Jul 29, 2011 2:43 PM (in response to Dolliegirl)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    Dolliegirl, I'm the same way - I'm way more excited about being able to run for 30 minutes straight than how fast (or slow, in my case) that I'm going. I'd also recommend John Bingham's book Running for Mortals....I loved that one!

     

    I have a 5K this Sunday. I'm hoping to finish in about 42 minutes, depending on what the weather is like.





    Carolyn, wife to Chad and mom to three boys

    Started WW and C25K on 1/10/11

    Starting Weight: 184.4 lbs

    Goal Weight: 130 lbs

    Current Weight: 131.4

    Rookie runner

    Race results for 2011:

    Shamrock Shuffle 8K 4/10/11 - 1:10:26

    Bridge to Bridge 5K 5/7/11 - 39:59

    Graham's Sundae 5K 7/31/11 - 38:48

    Eagles Run 5K 8/6/11 - 38:28

    Run for the Athletes 5K 8/17/11 - 39.04

    Pumpkin Run 10K 10/30/11 - 1:12:24

    Hot Chocolate 5K 11/5/11 - 34:24 - PR!!!!

    Fox and the Turkey Trot 4 miler - 44:34

    Snowflake Shuffle 5K - 35:11 - last race of 2011

    Race results for 2012:

    Shamrock Shuffle 8K 3/25/12 - 56:42!!

  • willwrite4chocolate Pro 124 posts since
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    3,770. Jul 29, 2011 4:21 PM (in response to Dolliegirl)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    Regarding the question of who's a penguin, I believe John Bingham coined the term penguin when he caught a glimpse of himself running past a store front window. Up to that point, he thought of himself as sleek, svelte, athletic - you know, a regular running machine. What he saw in the window resembled a penguin more than it did a runner. He said that he has short legs, a sort of wide body (at least he did back when he first started running) and short arms. Hence the term "Penguin." I don't think it had anything to do with speed - at least not in his mind. Of course, in most of his books he talks about being a back of the back of the packer in the races he runs and he talks about getting the most out of your entry fee by staying on the course as long as you need to! So it has become synonymous with the joyful folks (that's us!) at the back of the back of the pack.

     

    I personally think being a penguin is a state of mind. Yes I've worked to increase my running pace, but I'm still at the back of the back of the pack in most races. I'm more concerned with running for the long haul than my pace. Penguins forever!





    ~ Nita

  • reddolp50 Legend 461 posts since
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    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    State of mind while aI waddle, ploggle, ploddle, or whatever, my speed is slow. 

     

    I probably look like a Penguin too, but running forward at my pace has eased the stress and pounded some good stuff into this old body........................I hope I get faster one day, but going to keep moving before stiff stuff from arthritis gets the upper hand; and for sure keep moving before rigamortis def gets me.....





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  • willwrite4chocolate Pro 124 posts since
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    3,772. Jul 29, 2011 6:38 PM (in response to reddolp50)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    I definitely look like a penguin! Most of the time if I'm caught on video, even though it feels like I'm running at full speed, I still look like I'm walking or, rather, waddling along. My dog can almost walk and keep up with me! And, I don't care what I look like. I LOVE HOW IT FEELS!!!

     

    Also agree about outrunning arthritis! Keep those joints moving. I have arthritis in my knee and ankle and the more I move it, the better it feels!

     

    Penguin up! Penguin on!





    ~ Nita

  • chaseorbeingchased Rookie 5 posts since
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    3,773. Jul 29, 2011 7:10 PM (in response to Dolliegirl)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    Thanks Dolliegirl!! I appreciate all of the input!  I am happy that I am running PERIOD...today I was doing c25k week 1 day 4 (LOL) and I was SO TICKLED that I kept my pace at a .5 incline and FINISHED!!!  Two weeks ago I wasn't doing this...and wouldn't even consider it (thus the name).  Figured out I do a proud 17 minute mile...but like everyone is saying, I'm PROUD TO BE RUNNING!!

     

    Thanks to everyone for the comments, suggestions and ideas. I've never blogged before, but you guys really are a great community of inspiration!!

     

    YAY!!  Happy weekend!!





    Hoping to do my first 5k in Nov...."Turkey Trot"

  • Ogr44 Legend 316 posts since
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    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    I fully believe that penguins have a state of mind that starts with acceptance of whatever pace you run.  I tend to hover between 11 and 12 min miles be it a 5K , 10k, or HM.  I have come later in life to waddling - I used to hate the twice a year PT runs I had to do in the Navy.  Its hard to believe that there was a time when i actually ran an 8 min/mile.

     

    I really enjoy the race experience - at the same time, I still find getting out on a jog to be a struggle.  I have not yet experienced that runners high.  I recently got thru a mental block where I could not run past 1 mile.   My most recent jogs have had me "running" 1.5 to almost 2 miles straight before taking a walk break.  I am now aiming to push past the 3 mile straight mark in the next week or so.  (street crossing excepted).  That said, I'm still between the 11 and 12 min/mile pace now.  I hope to break the 30 min mark in a 5k this year.  My last timed jog had me at 34:55  and I usually run a couple min faster in an event than by myself.

     

    I do find that the folks in the middle and back of the pack tend to be a slightly more friendly and willing to exchange a few words during an event compared to the quicker folks who tend toward the front...





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  • Dolliegirl Expert 53 posts since
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    3,775. Jul 29, 2011 8:59 PM (in response to Ogr44)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    I enjoy reading everyone's posts! Everytime I do, I feel like I can't wait until my next run!

     

    Ogr44: I know what you mean about the Runners High...endorphines aside, I think it is an urban legend (LOL). That heady feeling hits me AFTER I finish running, never while I am running.





    Dolliegirl

    Big Bunny Fun Run 5K, Cupertino, CA 4/23/2011 41:34

    Weight Watchers Walk It! 5K, Menlo Park, CA 5/22/2011 41:20

    Santa Cruz Firecracker 5K, Santa Cruz, CA 7/04/2011 41:52

    Wharf to Wharf 10K, Santa Cruz to Capitola,CA 7/24/2011 1:21:47

    Trail Hog 5K, San Jose, CA 9/24/2011 55:11 (big, big hill! trail run. very hard! who knew?)

    Waterfront 5K, San Francisco, CA 1/22/2012 43.47

    Valentine Fun Run 5K, Campbell, CA 2/11/2012 45:11

    She.Is.Beautiful 5K, Santa Cruz, CA 3/25/2012

    Big Bunny Fun Run 5K, Cupertino, CA 4/07/2012

  • MamaBear56 Pro 168 posts since
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    3,776. Jul 29, 2011 9:19 PM (in response to Dolliegirl)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    A-AMEN!  





    Betty a.k.a. MamaBear56

    Started running/walking program December 1, 2010

    2/26/2011 Snow Joke HM 3:30:14

    3/26/2011 Missoula Make A Wish Foundation 5k 38:00

    4/17/2011 Rocky Mountain Bank Summit Classic 10K 1:22:41

    5/21/11 - West Valley School 5K 46:00??? (I know I can do better)

    5/22/11 - Weight Watchers 5K Walk (Completed with some jogging, untimed)

    8/6/11 - Roodell Run 10K 1:18:49

    10/2/11 - Fernie, BC HM 3:25:06

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  • loriecollins Amateur 12 posts since
    Feb 7, 2011
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    3,777. Jul 30, 2011 2:54 AM (in response to Ogr44)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    ogr44 i know what you mean about the runners high.  my husband is retired navy and has just recently started running or penguining with me.  I asked him why now since i started in February and he said when i told him that i did 4 miles he didn't want to be out done.  back to the subject.  I asked him when would i go out and feel the runners hight.  everytime i go out it is a struggle for me, but i do enjoy it.  when i started in February i thought i would never make it to 3 miles.  i did my first 5K on July 22 and finished in 46:22, but i am very proud of my time. I was happy to be at the back of the pack, finished 206 out of 226.  this morning i am going out and trying to do 4 1/2 miles as i am now working my way up to a 10K.  I am 49 and my ultimate goal is to do one marathon before i am 55.  in my 5K my first mile was at 13:26, i was consistant and my second mile i did in 26:30. It was 103 when i started and i managed to jog the whole way.  i started at the back of the pack and tried not to get swept up with the crowd since most of them were way faster than i am.  i am just happy to be moving.  i let myself gain way too much weight over the years so am still 80 pounds over weight, but still moving.  I am up now at 5:50 getting ready to go out and run so i can beat the heat.  I am just waiting for the sun to rise for safety. I don't post much but i read everyone faithfully, you all inspire me to keep moving and not worry about my time.  I do have to say i hope to go out one day and feel the runners high.  have a great day everyone!

  • Kristy in NC Pro 134 posts since
    Feb 14, 2011
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    3,778. Jul 30, 2011 4:15 AM (in response to chaseorbeingchased)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    As for the difference in running on a treadmill vs outdoors/track - there is a difference.  Running on a treadmill is easier because the belt is moving for you but off the treadmill you have to move your body forward.  I started on a treadmill at a 1-1.5% incline to compensate for the difference, but was shocked when I moved to the indoor track/outside to run.  it was more difficult.  That being said - a treadmill is absolutely beneficial at times and I do not downplay them.  I still occasionally get on the treadmill.  right now it's so hot and humid that I'm running on the indoor track at the gym and it feels like being a rat in a maze.  I'm ready for a little cooler weather!





    Kristy in NC

    3/12/11 - St. Patricks Day 5K - First 5K - 43 min

    7/4/11 - Peachtree Road Race - 1hr 30 min

    9/2/11 - BB&T Sunset 5K - 40:48

    10/22/11 - Rocktoberfest 5K - 38:53

    11/5/11 - CommYOUnity 5K - 37:22

    11/24/11 - Butterball 5K - 37:03

    3/25/12 - Charlotte Motor Speedway 5K - 34:21

  • Paularun Pro 92 posts since
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    3,779. Jul 30, 2011 4:25 AM (in response to loriecollins)
    Re: Calling all Penguins (slow runners)

    about the runner's high: I read a really good book on genetic types, how every type looses weight and stays fit. (I need to find the english title, it's german),

    the author says, you need a certain heart beat rate to reach the state (flow, runner's high),

    It is between 60% and 85% of the max. heart beat rate. My high sets in above 80, around 85%.

    When the rate is too low, you might not experience the high.

    May try to track your pulse and go towards the 80/85% once in a while!

     

    What I like a about the book, too is that the workouts are very similar to the Couch 25K programme, only do they one should add short high impact intervals in 1 training during the week, where you run at your highest speed for 30secs.

    Over time you add up to 5 high impact intervals in 1 training. The others stay like they are.

     

    I enjoy the high impact because

    a) I am capable of running fast for 30secs without collapsing afterwards

    b) running fast is fun. I would love to be able to run like a kid, they run as fast as they can. For those 30secs, I become a kid again.

     

    I agree, this thread is so motivating!

     

    I recently found out that a co-worker did a 5K run earlier this year, she ran about 30mins. I said "wow, that's good", she was not happy at all but rather unsatisfied with her time.

    I am glad there are not more shopwindows in the area where I run, I might lose my motivation when I see myself mirrored in the window.

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