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Click to view mlines109's profile Amateur 42 posts since
Jul 9, 2007

Nov 13, 2007 4:35 PM

Having trouble getting over a certain mileage!

I need some advice, on how to get my mileage up. I think I've hit a wall because everytime my long run day comes around I can't get over 10 miles and I start to hurt after 7 or 8 miles. Thats when it goes downhill and I start to get a stomach ache and my legs just want to say no! I'm not sure if its that im doing too much before a long run because i also swim. Or if its what i'm eating, or that i just suck at long distances. If anyone has any thoughts that would be great!

-Amanda
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Oct 1, 2007
1. Nov 14, 2007 3:54 PM in response to: mlines109
Re: Having trouble getting over a certain mileage!

Amanda -- I hit a wall at about that point as well. At about seven or eight miles my knees and lower back would start to hurt, which of course meant that I really couldn't get much past 10 miles. Here are a few things to consider:

    • If you're swimming before the run, it could just mean you're getting tired, so you should definitely try the run on "fresh" legs (or at least try the "triathlete" kick when you swim, which means not kicking much at all).

    • For longer runs, you should seriously consider refueling midway. Sport gels/beans contain electrolytes to replace what you've lost sweating as well as sugar which your body can quickly convert to energy.

    • Also, this tends to vary from person to person, but if I'm going on a long run, I always make sure to eat well a couple hours beforehand. I like to load up on whole wheat toast, high-protein cereal, milk, sometimes eggs. The carbs will give you energy and the protein and fiber keep you full.

    • Keep in mind that you do need a fair amount of strength to run longer distances and running isn't the quickest way to build this strength. Do you ever spin with a lot of resistance/cycle up hill? It does wonders building quad strength. I'm a huge fan of spinning because it's a great workout and a great way for runners to cross train and I really credit the spinning for getting my mileage up. Also, do you lift weights? You'll want to make sure to work your shins (sitting on a bench with your legs in front of you and your lower calves/feet hanging off the edge, hook a weight over your feet and move it up and down) as well as your calves (you can use the Smith machine with a step or just stand on stairs or on your toes and raise and lower your body). Squats/lunges are another good way to work your quads. If you're not familiar with these exercises and have a gym membership, it's worthwhile to have at least a session or two with a personal trainer so they can show you the correct way to do them.

Good luck -- I'm sure you'll get over this hump in no time!

Click to view Jay Silvio's profile Community Moderator 1,440 posts since
Jul 9, 2007
2. Nov 20, 2007 8:39 AM in response to: mlines109
Re: Having trouble getting over a certain mileage!

Yodiwan makes a number of good suggestions. It is going to be important to rehydrate during runs that are longer than one hour and if a run goes much beyond that you'll also need to replace carbs. If you aren't taking in water and/or power bars, gels, bananas, etc., this may be why you are hitting that mileage barrier. Also remember that complex carbs (especially whole grains) stay in your system longer and provide your body with energy for a more extended period of time. Another suggestion is to increase the tempo of your shorter runs so that you will be more comfortable at the pace of your 10 milers. I also recommend cross-training (although my usual method is an elliptical machine rather than spinning) and strength training (I use natural resistance exercises like pull-ups, crunches, dips, and push-ups) to reduce injuries, increase metabolism, and maintain bone density (especially important for you as a woman). I hope this helps.

Good luck!

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4. Nov 23, 2007 5:04 PM in response to: mlines109
Re: Having trouble getting over a certain mileage!
I have a pretty sensitive stomach too, can't tolerate real food when running or cycling. Carboom gels with a large swig of water don't upset my stomach. I have to swallow the gel like a pill, rather than eat it like pudding. If I'm running for more than an hour I'll take one at 45 minutes to avoid that "crash" feeling. Hope that helps.
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5. Nov 24, 2007 9:02 AM in response to: mlines109
Re: Having trouble getting over a certain mileage!
Remember to take in food before you start to tire out. Since it takes time for your body to digest the food, if you wait until start feeling run down it's going to be too late. Also, the longer you run the harder it's going to be for your stomach to handle food so that's yet another reason to fuel up early (besides, it means you don't have to keep carrying your food with you while you're running). If you have a sensitive stomach you might want to try something like shot blocks or sport beans that are relatively easy to swallow (I have found that bananas are fairly easy to eat on the run but tend to make a bit of a mess).
Good luck!
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Oct 1, 2007
6. Nov 24, 2007 9:53 AM in response to: mlines109
Re: Having trouble getting over a certain mileage!

I lift weights fairly frequently and I still get bored! Here are a few non-weights exercise suggestions that can strengthen your legs for distance running:

    • Lunges: Take a brief break from running and lunge down the track/path/sidewalk for, say, 50 feet. It's easy to hurt your knees while lunging though, so make sure your knees never advance in front of your toes. Keep your back straight and your body upright. Only do as many as you can without sacrificing your form.

    • Stairs: Can you get to a stadium / bleechers / any stairs? Running up stairs strengthens your quads (and then you can also stand on a step and do calf extensions). Be careful going down the stairs, though, since that can also hurt your knees. If you do manage to find a nice set of stairs, when you go down them, you may want to consider going sideways. This puts the work on your quads (taking it off the knee area). If you are going down stairs sideways, you should switch directions every so often so you work both sides of the body equally. In addition to simply running up all the stairs at once, you can also do sets where you run up, say, three levels, down two, or up two, down one, etc.

    • Jumping rope: Jumping rope really works the calves (which are an important muscle group for runners since they help propel you forward). Also great cardio (but again, can be rough on the knees). To minimize the stress on your knees, don't jump high -- just enough so the rope clears -- and always land with soft knees.

    • Yoga: Certain yoga poses work the quads like warrior, lunges, chair/awkward, eagle. (And, like you noticed, yoga's always good for a good stretch!)
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7. Nov 25, 2007 6:20 PM in response to: mlines109
Re: Having trouble getting over a certain mileage!

Hi Amanda, lots of great advice, but I'll tack my 2 cents on.

1st what pace are you doing your distance runs at? Maybe your problem is you are running too fast. the purpose of slow distance runs are to build up blood capillaries and cell mitochondria for your faster runs/races.

there are various formulas to determine slow distance runs, Jeff Galloway has a formula, can't put my hands on his book so this will be from memory.

do a time trial mile, warm up is something like a 1/2 mile slow jog then run your mile. take that time plus 1.2 for a 1/2 marathon race pace and then you add 3 mins on that for your slow run pace.

so for simple math example: mile time 10:00 min, 12:00 min pace for 1/2 marathon, slow runs would be 15:00 min pace you could also try to come up w/ this number by taking what you think your race pace will be and add 3 mins for slow distance run time,

If you are planning on doing race at 9:00 min pace, slow would be at 12:00. it IS hard to run as slow as the formula but think you will be able to finish the distance w/ that advice and the other tips. also, sometimes just altering your pace, speed up/slow down helps as does change of terrain. if you are running all on flat that gets fatigueing.

definitely you need to be drinking along the run and most likely re-fueling after 45 min/1 hr or so depending on the length of your run. also banish the thoughts "I've run xmiles and say to yourself "only 2 miles (or whatever to go) and I've done that a million times before"

I use accel gel and accelerade. sometimes ultima

I did my 1stt ever races this year, 1/2 marathons so if I can do it so can you.....i'm an overwt 54 yr old runner and I'm slow but hey I'd rather run slow at 100 than not at all.

good luck to you